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Lachlan so if you were in the market TODAY with the needs I outlined what would you buy,
We have the first order for the new Asiga MAX. Should be in here in a couple weeks. Will post results.So glad you didn't say Envisiontec, or Objet,
You know anything about the Asiga Pro 2
We have the first order for the new Asiga MAX. Should be in here in a couple weeks. Will post results.
I have been shopping and more or less pulling my hair out looking for the sweetspot for printers.
I want a machine I can do guides and night guards on, prints a nice accurate model and has the ability to easily change out resin, I do not want to do multiple prints a day, so build plate has to be big enough not to have to have a ton of tech time, love to be able to guides and guards in the day and load up the models for the night.
Such a decision of a disposable printer at an entry point of $3500 and a REAL machine at 50k+
Asiga slipped my mind. Apologies Matt. The newer gen Asigas look really good. The 3rd party resin choice is good. The quality of prints i have seen off it at IDS were very nice. I had one of the first Pico printers they made. The tech was new but from what i have seen they have improved massively. I would choose this over a Formlabs. Although a little pricier. The longevity will be better.
this is everything that counts deviation research versus tests resolution layer thickness are not in the same way correlated as on milling.
which is the best in this cases wright envisiontec see deviation collors
http://theorthocosmos.com/dimensional-accuracy-3d-printers/
Your study did not include any Asiga printers?
No problem show me deviation pics i told you long before , its the easiest and hardest way !! but keep in your mind from time to time i do my own studies and Geomagic Qualifiy is my best friend .
Is this what you have been looking for?
I was able to dig these up. A comparison of the Asiga printer vs. Formlabs printer using the same full arch model.Same thing on a full arch and your King for the day !!!
The unicorn does not exist yet....
Printing is expensive in equipment, consumables but more so time. This is the important factor you don't realise fully until you're doing it. Perfect example, i had two simple smile design models to put on overnight. Takes 15 minutes to load and start printing. Ortho Analyser does not output models on perfect flat planes so you have to finely level it bit by bit. Then came in this morning and 1 arch failed.. Lost resin over the side of the tray. Lost resin that had cured and come off the platform. Spent another 20 minutes cleaning up and putting the arch on again. Then it will take 10-20 minutes to post process. add it up. It costs about 40+ dollars a model without including printer costs and fixed costs. Explaining this to techs is one things. Explaining this to the dentist paying for models is another. They have been told digital is cheaper by their reps selling them the scanner.
In my experience the cheaper printers are cheap for a reason. The tech is not the same regardless of what people will say. I would say it is mostly the print firmware, resin used (spot curing thickness/expansion) and separation technique from the build tray membrane. They all have a different techniques and some are better than others. We have had maybe 3 failed prints in 12 months on the Envisiontec, and i would put that down to user error. We had a print head go on the Objet but no fails aside from that in the last 12 months. The expensive printers in our lab i can go home and not worry about it.
The Formlabs we would get a fail once a fortnight i would say. For no obvious reason. As labs we are looking to be more efficient with human time and at the moment i have not seen a cheaper printer that helps that cause.
The new LCD masking printers are going to be a positive way forward. when they can fit a 600-800 dpi screen in a 10 inch platform (or around triple what the slash is) we should be on point for a reasonably cheap and predictable printer. give it 6 months i would say.
Hope this helps someone out there!
I find it interesting how the onset of digital technology is actually regressing the accuracy.. Everyone is using printers with 40- 60+ micron resolution, when has that ever been acceptable in dentistry? In all seriousness. We went through the cosmetic revolution to go backwards for speed?
find me a probe that can feel an 80um gap