Seperator issues

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Didley

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Has anyone else had issues with separator not working in the last few years. I've used Ivoclar separator medium for the last 40 years, and in the last few its gone off. I'm told it has changed recipe as it is now being made by a third party.??????
I've tried Schottlander, Kulzer Aislar, Durodent, and Ainsworth and am now waiting on a delivery of Vertex, all no better than Ivoclar. I'm now trying Vitafol H to good effect to clean up the gingival margins.

Your thoughts appreciated.
 
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I've used it for a while to, but Im not having any issues with it. I have noticed though it is better if you put it on while the models are warm in the flask after removing the wax and multiple coats do help. In regards to the gingiva I have used Vitafol H and I do not like it it is okay for certain things but it is not the best. I really like to use a seal tech putty to put around the gingival margins it keeps them crisp and Stone free and as long as you follow the mixing directions in the seal tech it never sticks and removes right off of the acrylic with no issue. If you would like to know more of the exact siltech I use let me know and I will try and post a picture of it.
 
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Depending on the application ‘APS’ (acrylic plaster separator) is great stuff. From dva if I remember correctly. Hot models, cold models,wet models, works for me on all. Beats colloid based separators all day imho.
 
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+1 for DVA's APS.
 
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Didley

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Depending on the application ‘APS’ (acrylic plaster separator) is great stuff. From dva if I remember correctly. Hot models, cold models,wet models, works for me on all. Beats colloid based separators all day imho.
Thanks I'll try to order some, I'm in Australia, but I think I'll be able to get it!
 
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Ok i got some APS and its great thanks to those who recomended it.
 
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just read the directions for use... I also use it, after having used the previous ivoclar sep solution for years. it works fine, when you follow the directions, just mnay need to change the way you do things, its not the same as it was
 
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I use ivoclars it is really good and works well with ivobase the only time i have issues is when I over boil out or fiddaly dink with something like an attachment in the pressure pot, and sometimes it does not stick well to vacuum mixed stone. When something does happen I get it really hot and scrub it off let it dry somewhat then reapply.
 
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I apply three coats on a warm model and just before packing I will place a thin layer of fresh stuff on. No problems that way...Before it was lifting up off the model....Ivobase has no issues and I think the formula was reworked for Ivobase.
 
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