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Sorry if this isnt allowed for some reason, Im a dentist looking at AG Motion 2. we have 3 locations and would centralize the mill at one location.
For bite splints: whats the true material cost of these? 30-40 seems very high. we do a good amount of glidewell splints for $65 shipped.. they actually fit quite well. but PPO fees are terrible. if we can get our costs down to under $20 its worth it. Already have Exocad and IOS so it would be model-less and fully digital. Ive tried printing with nextdent orthoclear, but the results have been poor so far. 2 offices do NOT have IOS, so we would need to scan those in.
We also do about 30-40 crowns a month, and would mill the zirconia ones. probably not emax anteriors yet. From what ive seen its about $120-$180/98mm disc? And that should get 25-35 units per disc? Im assuming the software remembers the puck and whats been previously cut from it.. or i hope it does. if so we are looking at $4-$8 raw materials.
finally one site we have is medicaid, and they pay $400/arch for dentures. At $200/arch lab fees we simply lose money on the case when i factor chair and staff time. Id need to be able to get dentures down to $75 for a milled base/prefab teeth. Obviously need to work on chairside impressions with docs and proper baseplating and bite records, and need to invest in a couple extra modules of Exocad.
if we are using the mill for 50 items/mo it would average about $15/use over 5years. I think the ROI would be good and pay for itself in less than a year. It would get a little use for surgical guides as well, but the bulk will be splints, zirconia crowns, and dentures.
Right now have only considered the AG Motion 2, mainly for local support from Benco. But open to other options. Thank you everyone for the help.
For bite splints: whats the true material cost of these? 30-40 seems very high. we do a good amount of glidewell splints for $65 shipped.. they actually fit quite well. but PPO fees are terrible. if we can get our costs down to under $20 its worth it. Already have Exocad and IOS so it would be model-less and fully digital. Ive tried printing with nextdent orthoclear, but the results have been poor so far. 2 offices do NOT have IOS, so we would need to scan those in.
We also do about 30-40 crowns a month, and would mill the zirconia ones. probably not emax anteriors yet. From what ive seen its about $120-$180/98mm disc? And that should get 25-35 units per disc? Im assuming the software remembers the puck and whats been previously cut from it.. or i hope it does. if so we are looking at $4-$8 raw materials.
finally one site we have is medicaid, and they pay $400/arch for dentures. At $200/arch lab fees we simply lose money on the case when i factor chair and staff time. Id need to be able to get dentures down to $75 for a milled base/prefab teeth. Obviously need to work on chairside impressions with docs and proper baseplating and bite records, and need to invest in a couple extra modules of Exocad.
if we are using the mill for 50 items/mo it would average about $15/use over 5years. I think the ROI would be good and pay for itself in less than a year. It would get a little use for surgical guides as well, but the bulk will be splints, zirconia crowns, and dentures.
Right now have only considered the AG Motion 2, mainly for local support from Benco. But open to other options. Thank you everyone for the help.