Help Wanted In house technician for dental office fixed and removable

[Contraluz]

Whatever happened to the days that if you weren't interested in a job position that you just plain don't respond?

I actually think 'they' are behaving pretty well, so far. There are a couple similar threads on here, that went off the rail quickly, where I have asked a similar question...

 

[gallagerdental]

Whatever happened to the days that if you weren't interested in a job position that you just plain don't respond?

That is still the case, but it's fun discussing it with your peers anyway. I guess it's one of those V8 moments,where you smack your head and ask really?


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[CatamountRob]

It gets bumped to the top of the "recent posts" page with every comment. How many more people have seen it because of the comments than would've otherwise?

 

[Affinity]

Its called 'market feedback'.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Whatever happened to the days that if you weren't interested in a job position that you just plain don't respond?

well doc.....will you come practice dentistry for fast-food wages?

 

[paulg100]

"thats a lot of work for one person!" 20 units of fixed and 4-10 removables a MONTH! is allot?? well I thought I was slow but guess not,

90k a year is not allot... think maybe I'm working in the wrong place. Ok its $ but 90k a year in UK is a pretty darn good living for a 1 man band. especially if your not doing 7 days a week to earn it.

Can do it all: Yep all to "high end level" (hate that saying) plus clinical qualification.. Am I underselling my self? seems like it from everyones comments here!!
mmm..

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

"thats a lot of work for one person!" 20 units of fixed and 4-10 removables a MONTH! is allot?? well I thought I was slow but guess not,

90k a year is not allot... think maybe I'm working in the wrong place. Ok its $ but 90k a year in UK is a pretty darn good living for a 1 man band. especially if your not doing 7 days a week to earn it.

Can do it all: Yep all to "high end level" (hate that saying) plus clinical qualification.. Am I underselling my self? seems like it from everyones comments here!!
mmm..

being a one man band and doing it "all" including complex implants c/b and removables....yeah thats a bunch of work. been there done it!

 

[paulg100]

doing way more than that plus working 1 day a week in clinic to treat the patients the removables are for. and I thought I was slow! OK I'm doing 12-14 hour days mon-fri plus some weekends but good to know I'm not as slow as I thought.

Not good to know it seems I should be earning way more money :/

 

[CoolHandLuke]

poor saps. here i am taking fridays off, feeling overworked.

 

[Affinity]

I almost pulled an all-nighter last week but got to leave at 3am.. But yeah, I dont do 12-14 hour days anymore, Im a lazy millenial.

 

[wwcanoer]

I was in-house (35 yrs)CDT, doing fixed and implants- put my foot down to doing removables, about 2 months after I left the boss called to saw basically he didn't realize how lucky he had been. Yes the commercial lab that took over his cases was good, but wasn't able to really go the extra mile - ok that isn't coming out right - but Affinity nailed it about doing it right, no matter how many remakes it took. The most was 10 remakes on one central , or redoing a full mouth because the patient decided A-1 was too dark. And I was d**** bossy when it came to impressions, most retakes was 7, but if he wanted perfection, I got to demand perfection too. Yeah that kind of service costs! Good luck in finding someone. What was a major decider for me to work in-house was a 4 day work week, taking all the vacation days the Dr. took-PAID- and some years that was 7 weeks, and full dental for me and family.

 

[Flipperlady]

In fairness to the dentist, he or she is taking on the expense of the equipment and drumming up business. I would say for basic denture tech (no implant) train them yourself (takes time) start $35,000 -$40,000 per year. Experienced denture (no implant) starting at $45,000-$60,000 per year. Then you move up to denture /implant specialist, forget training them yourself. If you are lucky enough to find someone that does both, then you could try to start at $60,000 but you would need to sweeten the deal with a great work/ life balance and make sure everyone in the office knows who's boss (don't let the wife/husband and or front desk call the scheduling shots.) Also in either case, offer 401K , medical and yearly raises.

Well, I had to edit because I actually went back and read the original post. Yeah, you will need to hire two techs for this position, you won't find one that can do both fixed and removables. I can only speak for the removable side.

 

[wwcanoer]

So true Flipper, and in all fairness I will ad it that I retired at a salary below $100,000, and I was very happy with our arrangement. But in today's world I wouldn't have signed on for what I retired at..

Another side to this story is he had planned on retiring @ 2 years before I did, and had assumed that my presence would be a. Big draw for a new DDS to buy the practice. didn't turn out that way. He ended up selling 9 months after I left, and almost all the equipment is still sitting there unused.

 

[kcdt]

I think a point that people are missing is that it isn't just about the volume. C&B plus removables means one person moving two dedicated workflows forward on their own.
It's a lot.

 

[TheLabGuy]

I think a point that people are missing is that it isn't just about the volume. C&B plus removables means one person moving two dedicated workflows forward on their own.
It's a lot.

As long as some of have been here on this forum, how many of us can actually say we do both proficient, especially proficient enough in a clinical setting? Honestly, that tech does exist, usually has the gray hair to show it, but no way he is going inhouse for anything under 250k/year. Those type of techs run or own successful labs already, and make much more than 250k/year. Just my opinion.

 

[Affinity]

I do full service by myself. What kcdt says is the truth, its two totally seperate workflows. Its tough to manage your time between the two. Ive cut the removables down to mainly relines/repairs and maybe 2 arches per month now (the doc wont take no for an answer),its maybe 10% of my total volume, but it really slows me down to only process one arch at a time, while leaving the clock ticking on all the C&B.

 

[Car 54]

I do full service by myself. What kcdt says is the truth, its two totally seperate workflows. Its tough to manage your time between the two. Ive cut the removables down to mainly relines/repairs and maybe 2 arches per month now (the doc wont take no for an answer),its maybe 10% of my total volume, but it really slows me down to only process one arch at a time, while leaving the clock ticking on all the C&B.

Just in doing C&B myself and going from implants esp UCLA and PFMs can be enough of a slow down, you know, get me back to the
speed and profitability of doing FCZ, let alone doing anything as far as removables, would really throw me off being efficiently productive.

 

[droberts]

well doc.....will you come practice dentistry for fast-food wages?

Not a "doc" here . Self-employed lab tech like many others on here. And no, my fees do not compliment fast food wages.

 

[JMN]

If forced into this arrangement by chance or circumstance:

Removable on M, W
Fixed Tu, Th

This allows dentures to sit in flasks for 24hrs after curing. Automatically builds in a shipping day.

And most importantly, keeps you from turning multitasking into acquired ADD. Ask around, it happens. If you task switch too often you are training your brain to focus short term only and it doesn't keep abilities you don't use.

Without some day-delineated practices, I would be trashed by the cognitive disturbance, de-tool & re-tool time, workflow disruption, and any ability to keep 'zoned in' on a particular case are totally out the window.

 

[kcdt]

As long as some of have been here on this forum, how many of us can actually say we do both proficient, especially proficient enough in a clinical setting? Honestly, that tech does exist, usually has the gray hair to show it, but no way he is going inhouse for anything under 250k/year. Those type of techs run or own successful labs already, and make much more than 250k/year. Just my opinion.

Been there. Money can't ameliorate stress.
Couldn't make me do it again at gunpoint.

It's a real conundrum; the rewards on so many levels can amazing, but somehow the price is always stapled to it.
It's really a young man's game, but the young don't know enough of life to set the parameters to minimize the pitfalls.