Any non Ivoclar denture mills?

[CatamountRob]

Defensive? OK, I don't care one way or the other. All of my equipment has been paid off for a several years now. Enjoy your retirement.

Pretty sure her vulcanizer is paid off too. So there.

 

[Flipperlady]

Pretty sure her vulcanizer is paid off too. So there.

Believe it or not, I actually used a vulcanizer to make jewelry molds years ago. You make the waxup of the jewelry, cast, leave on the sprue use the vulcanizer to form the mold and use a very sharp knife to carefully cut open the mold so it can be used to shoot wax copies. It's all good, I don't buy into the "are you a new car or a used car kind of person" to be sold to, it's all good.

 

[2thm8kr]

That you answered back says it all, last word!

I just find it humorous.
I'll be waiting for your last word.

 

[rkm rdt]

Pretty sure her vulcanizer is paid off too. So there.

does it rhyme with spock?

 

[Yourgoes]

I'm having a hard time imagining the internal geometry at the meeting of the material. Can't be a straight or flat junction or you'd never get scaloping around the teeth.

They are premanufatured waves which means the positions and proportions of the teeth are set based on the puck. Will not work for every case

 

[Doris A]

They are premanufatured waves which means the positions and proportions of the teeth are set based on the puck. Will not work for every case

So that's why they're only starting out with 3 Moulds of teeth. You're going to have to buy mould specific pucks.

 

[CoolHandLuke]

They are premanufatured waves which means the positions and proportions of the teeth are set based on the puck. Will not work for every case

it is easier to add Quality to things that are convenient, than it is to add convenience to a quality product.

 

[Yourgoes]

So that's why they're only starting out with 3 Moulds of teeth. You're going to have to buy mould specific pucks.

Yes, some other restrictions to design as well, posterior teeth dimensions are preset; they can’t be stretched or compressed, can’t drop a premolar etc.
Other issue is shallow palates and if the tooth arch and the residual ridge don’t perfectly align you can have some of the base that will be tooth coloured

 

[JKraver]

Think about the massive inventory you will require..

You would include the cost of ordering the correct one.

 

[JKraver]

I'm having a hard time imagining the internal geometry at the meeting of the material. Can't be a straight or flat junction or you'd never get scaloping around the teeth.

It is a wave like look it is interesting, I had a hard time imagining it would work for every case when i saw it in chicago

 

[brayks]

We utilize Polident PMMA products for dentures.
As previously noted by CHL, dentures made from full-Denture discs do require an Acrylate to finish (straight transition from gingiva to dentin) .
We mill complete upper or lower in under 2 hours.
We use a couple of different Polident products for heat curing or pressing that are available in an assortment of colors/textures.
We also use their pink CAD/CAM discs along with milled teeth or their extensive (and impressive) line of artificial teeth.

 

[Flipperlady]

So that's why they're only starting out with 3 Moulds of teeth. You're going to have to buy mould specific pucks.

They need C4, B62/A2, B59, B69 and toilet bowl white, that would just about cover all they need.

 

[Doris A]

They need C4, B62/A2, B59, B69 and toilet bowl white, that would just about cover all they need.

They are starting with 3 shades. A1, A2, & A3. They are also starting with 3 moulds.

 

[JKraver]

They need C4, B62/A2, B59, B69 and toilet bowl white, that would just about cover all they need.

I hate the fact I know what B62, B59 and B69 mean.... the worst shade guide ever. All the teeth seemed slightly green.

 

[Doris A]

I hate the fact I know what B62, B59 and B69 mean.... the worst shade guide ever. All the teeth seemed slightly green.

You won't be able to get them much longer anyway. Bioform is one of the lines that Dentsply is doing away with.

 

[JKraver]

You won't be able to get them much longer anyway. Bioform is one of the lines that Dentsply is doing away with.

It really is for the best.

 

[DAL Claxton]

Roland has a time conversion kit (maybe a different name?) that allows you to pour up your own acrylic you'd use for normal dentures into a mold. From there you mount it like any puck and mill in the material you're comfortable with. Haven't actually seen it in practice personally, but aside from some sensitive pouring technique and I'd imagine a pressure pot, it seems to work quite well for some. Then you get the added benefit of an acrylic look you're used to.

Then with Exocad, use the Vita Vionic digital denture teeth if you have enough room, and you shouldn't have any trouble with seating them into the socket.

 

[JMN]

You won't be able to get them much longer anyway. Bioform is one of the lines that Dentsply is doing away with.

 

[JKraver]

Roland has a time conversion kit (maybe a different name?) that allows you to pour up your own acrylic you'd use for normal dentures into a mold. From there you mount it like any puck and mill in the material you're comfortable with. Haven't actually seen it in practice personally, but aside from some sensitive pouring technique and I'd imagine a pressure pot, it seems to work quite well for some. Then you get the added benefit of an acrylic look you're used to.

Then with Exocad, use the Vita Vionic digital denture teeth if you have enough room, and you shouldn't have any trouble with seating them into the socket.

I personally would think milling a wax base and socketing in the teeth would work better than this. The benefit of milling pucks is the density/uniformity of the acrylic.