Porcelain build up techniques and color mapping .

[dabza]

Hello guys , if anyone can guide me to where i can find books on how to read cases and get exact shema of color and shape for percelain build up i will be grateful , thanks in advance

 

[ps2thtec]

There’s lots to see and learn from in this thread

Restorations Du Jour

I haven't posted in quite a while. Been so busy. I thought Id start a thread like Rick did on DT where if anybody had a case they wanted to post they could do it without having to make a new thread for it. That can be a pain and intimidating to some people to start a thread in the case...

dentallabnetwork.com

 

[Contraluz]

Hello guys , if anyone can guide me to where i can find books on how to read cases and get exact shema of color and shape for percelain build up i will be grateful , thanks in advance

There are plenty. Start here:

Quintessence Publishing USA

Quintessence Publishing Company Inc.

www.quintpub.com

Book Store | Palmeri Media Group

You can buy all the dental related books on our book store.

www.palmerimediagroup.com

 

[Contraluz]

Hello guys , if anyone can guide me to where i can find books on how to read cases and get exact shema of color and shape for percelain build up i will be grateful , thanks in advance

To add, look for books by Gerald Ubassy:

Ubassy dental products

www.ubassy.com

Or Oliver Brix:

Fascintaing Ceramics - eBook | Palmeri Media Group

In 15 chapters and 1200 images, of the highest quality and resolution, featuring special 3d printing, the author describes in minute details how to use lithium disilicate by presenting clinical cases that he has worked on in cooperation with other world renown clinicians.

www.palmerimediagroup.com

 

[dabza]

There are plenty. Start here:

Quintessence Publishing USA

Quintessence Publishing Company Inc.

www.quintpub.com

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There are plenty. Start here:

Quintessence Publishing USA

Quintessence Publishing Company Inc.

www.quintpub.com

Book Store | Palmeri Media Group

You can buy all the dental related books on our book store.

www.palmerimediagroup.com

Thank you so much .

 

[Al.]

Personally I try to focus on contours and do minimal layering. Complicated builds = starving artist.
My # 1 technique 99% of the time is full contour design facial scooped out cut back,
Stain color and character to match.
Then a thin layer like a skin of incisal over.

 

[Al.]

All these the same 1 powder builds maybe sometimes 2 powders. A regular incisal and a whiter incisal or in the case of zirconia with a cut back to the gingival I add dentin there.
But all stain underneath with skin over no complicated shade mapping or 10 + powder builds anymore.
Much more predictable for single anteriors for me and very fast.

 

[rkm rdt]

It’s great to have you back my friend

 

[Car 54]

It’s great to have you back my friend

Now, for 2th to make a comeback.

 

[dabza]

Personally I try to focus on contours and do minimal layering. Complicated builds = starving artist.
My # 1 technique 99% of the time is full contour design facial scooped out cut back,
Stain color and character to match.
Then a thin layer like a skin of incisal over.

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Wirh zirconia . it works like a sharm yea

All these the same 1 powder builds maybe sometimes 2 powders. A regular incisal and a whiter incisal or in the case of zirconia with a cut back to the gingival I add dentin there.
But all stain underneath with skin over no complicated shade mapping or 10 + powder builds anymore.
Much more predictable for single anteriors for me and very fast.

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First thing , your work is great , iam happy for the patients . Iam new to layering and ceramics in general . Ill follow the cutback technique and internal staining a for most cases as you said . Thank you so much .

 

[Car 54]

Wirh zirconia . it works like a sharm yea

First thing , your work is great , iam happy for the patients . Iam new to layering and ceramics in general . Ill follow the cutback technique and internal staining a for most cases as you said . Thank you so much .

Then also notice his tooth form, line angles, embrasures, tissue emergence, his surface contours and effects, and the satin sheen. Yes, we all have a ways to go, but at least when we see work like this, it gives us something to encourage us and to aim for, so that our patients will be happy, too

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

All these the same 1 powder builds maybe sometimes 2 powders. A regular incisal and a whiter incisal or in the case of zirconia with a cut back to the gingival I add dentin there.
But all stain underneath with skin over no complicated shade mapping or 10 + powder builds anymore.
Much more predictable for single anteriors for me and very fast.

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When are you offering in person old-school hand layering classes? w will be there, just tell me when and how much sir.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Now, for 2th to make a comeback.

and rkm

 

[Al.]

Then also notice his tooth form, line angles, embrasures, tissue emergence, his surface contours and effects, and the satin sheen. Yes, we all have a ways to go, but at least when we see work like this, it gives us something to encourage us and to aim for, so that our patients will be happy, too

Yes I think contours are # 1

 

[Al.]

Here is a crazy case done the same way
It went first try in. Close enough to go
But 100% stain with a little layer of porcelain over it.

 

[Al.]

I use a small brush a a sharp pointed instrument to add some of the dark lines.
I would not know how to begin a case like that with multiple powders.
I know several that map it out and mix 15 to 20 combinations of powders.
Would make my head explode.

 

[Car 54]

I use a small brush a a sharp pointed instrument to add some of the dark lines.
I would not know how to begin a case like that with multiple powders.
I know several that map it out and mix 15 to 20 combinations of powders.
Would make my head explode.

Funny, Like and Agree.

What if you were to show the 15 - 20 powder builders what can be done with a good background and stain, would probably make their heads explode

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Funny, Like and Agree.

What if you were to show the 15 - 20 powder builders what can be done with a good background and stain, would probably make their heads explode

i think those guys are being shown new competition with things like Miyo on the market. it sure makes it easier to get more depth and life like results with relatively little skill.

 

[Al.]

i think those guys are being shown new competition with things like Miyo on the market. it sure makes it easier to get more depth and life like results with relatively little skill.

I haven’t tried Miyo
Is it worth buying the kit ?
I guess I can order a shade at a time
I figure the full kit would probably cost $2,000 at least ???

 

[rkm rdt]

I use a small brush a a sharp pointed instrument to add some of the dark lines.
I would not know how to begin a case like that with multiple powders.
I know several that map it out and mix 15 to 20 combinations of powders.
Would make my head explode.

we don't have to prove how to wax or build up a crown anymore