Zirkonzahn color liquids

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Hello. I want to ask you , how use zirkonzahn liquids for pre-sintreres ZR. Where do you get them?
I've contacted to Russian ZZ dialer and they say that their liquids only for those who bought Zirkonzahn milling machine.
In your countries its the same?
 
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Nope i am using them on trans pure zenostar and getting good results so far.
Darker shades are a bit tricky.
 
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No, we don't have anything ZZ, just the stains in the fridge.
Silly for them to say they only sell to ZZ mill owners.
 
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That's wrong because they sell their pucks to open mills.

Try contacting a different dealer. Or call the head office and complain... it's in Italy I believe?
 
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Nope i am using them on trans pure zenostar and getting good results so far.
Darker shades are a bit tricky.

This technique is interesting, share some of your results and why you went this way.

We have only used the pure for ultra bleach shades, and only used the Zeno paint on color. I might do a few this way to check it out.

The only ZZ stains we are using are the tissue shades, as for the Suman question if you are having trouble getting the liquid I am sure that Nowak Dental can help you out, ask for Shawn he's very good guy.

www.nowakdental.com
 
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We use the ZZ acid stains on everything. We mill on the MCXL with Sironas blocks. We'll even use these stains on sironas TZI (Translucent Zirc). With great results.
We have Vita's YZ liquids, they are the worst!
And we have Sironas liquids specially for the TZI and they suck too. They must be expired or something cause when I tried to use them, they didn't color crap.
ZZ stains are the best.
 
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I do us colored discs too John.
However, using the pure trans discs and following the zz guide i get good results. I guess this is because the trans pure zenostar disc is very similar to the zz trans disc. The tips are still a little on the white side, but i am getting better with each week that passes.
 

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