Quick question- I have 2 dentists that are recently scanning for removables and I may need to buy a printer to print models...

[Car 54]

You don’t need a resin printer to make models.
The Renfert Simplex filament printer doesn’t require resin, light curing or a wash bath etc.
Check out filament printer on Amazon.

Or Nitrile gloves.

I prefer not to have the resin fumes permeate through my house.

Thank goodness I have a spare room I set my Phrozen up in. I can close the door and not have to deal with the smell or in rigging up some sort of ventilation hood etc.

 

[rkm rdt]

Or Nitrile gloves.


Thank goodness I have a spare room I set my Phrozen up in. I can close the door and not have to deal with the smell or in rigging up some sort of ventilation hood etc.

I hear you can save money by using exocad and then pay 50k licensing to use a carbon printer.

 

[bigj1972]

When he said 2 dentists are recently scanning for removable, it goes downhill from there.

 

[Inna-Hurry]

When he said 2 dentists are recently scanning for removable, it goes downhill from there.

They want to send me edentulous scans- have me print models, duplicate in stone and return wax rims to continue on analog... They both seem to think scanning an edentulous arch (or toothed for a partial or provisional) would be easier and more consistent than old school impressions. I'm thinking they may be right... Cheaper and less messy too...

 

[bigj1972]

They want to send me edentulous scans- have me print models, duplicate in stone and return wax rims to continue on analog... They both seem to think scanning an edentulous arch (or toothed for a partial or provisional) would be easier and more consistent than old school impressions. I'm thinking they may be right... Cheaper and less messy too...

Well at least they're going to have you convert to analog, that way when their vast experience in denture building doesn't work out, you can fix it conventionally.

 

[rkm rdt]

They want to send me edentulous scans- have me print models, duplicate in stone and return wax rims to continue on analog... They both seem to think scanning an edentulous arch (or toothed for a partial or provisional) would be easier and more consistent than old school impressions. I'm thinking they may be right... Cheaper and less messy too...

Edentulous scanning can be a challenge for a rookie so they better invest in a Trios 5

Partials are a breeze and I have no issues printing with my filament printer regardless of what the so called experts say. I silicone dupe my pla models and process conventionally.

 

[2000markpeters]

If you are serious about getting into printing look at a Asiga pro 4k and not the max. Spend the extra up front and you will not be sorry. The future and present is all about printing and you need the volume of the plate trust me. Do not sell yourself short you will kick yourself in the long run. I am a small lab and have 2 4k's that run all day and a new post processor that cost me a small fortune. You need to look at the big picture and never look back

 

[2000markpeters]

There is nothing wrong printing models for dentures or partials. They are very accurate.

 

[bigj1972]

Printed from a competent scan there is nothing wrong.

Missing landmarks and vestibule from a sloppy scan will be the same as a sloppy impression tray.

Accuracy comes from the act of duplicating an oral landscape, not the method. If you're a dumbass with an impression tray, you're probably going to be a dumbass with a scanner.

 

[rkm rdt]

From my experience, the patient is the biggest challenge. It’s not hard to scan the important landmarks if the patient lets you. The doctor knows what he needs to capture but can be hindered when the patient starts to gag, clench, or salivate.
The advantage is that he can stop and wait for the patient to recover before proceeding.
I highly recommend that you sit chairside with the doctor for a few scans and communicate what you need to build your model as well as experience their side of the procedure.

 

[bigj1972]

The doctor knows what he needs to capture but can be hindered when the patient starts to gag, clench, or salivate.

Maybe they know, maybe they don't.
Maybe they know and don't care.
I've had to reject a lot of impressions because of the "oh I didn't get to see that one, I was busy".

 

[rkm rdt]

Maybe they know, maybe they don't.
Maybe they know and don't care.
I've had to reject a lot of impressions because of the "oh I didn't get to see that one, I was busy".

I don’t work for those drs.

 

[bigj1972]

 

[Sr.Alan]

I bought a filament printer from Renfert. I print models for c and b and removables with it .
I paid 6K for it and had I known then what I know now I would have bought a 1500$ printer from Amazon.
That’s all you need for models.

What settings do you use? I am using .4 nozzle at 50um. 2 arches and a die takes 8hrs to print on fdm. Crazy long to for a reprint. Any suggestions?

 

[bigj1972]

What settings do you use? I am using .4 nozzle at 50um. 2 arches and a die takes 8hrs to print on fdm. Crazy long to for a reprint. Any suggestions?

Buy a Bambu X1C

 

[rkm rdt]

What settings do you use? I am using .4 nozzle at 50um. 2 arches and a die takes 8hrs to print on fdm. Crazy long to for a reprint. Any suggestions?

I print overnight.

 

[Romakyzpvp]

Buy a Bambu X1C

Good afternoon! We recently opened a dental lab in Hollywood, South Florida. We have a few questions that no one has been able to answer. Based on your messages, I can see that you are very experienced. Would it be possible to purchase a one-hour consultation with you?

 

[Romakyzpvp]

Buy a Bambu X1C

If you could help us out, please reach out to us at [email protected].

I’m happy to compensate you for your time via Zelle, PayPal, or any method that works best for you.

We’ve been trying to talk to dentists to better understand their needs, but most of them expect a 3-day turnaround, perfect quality, and only want to pay $100 per crown and $3,000 for a full arch with unlimited changes.

 

[bigj1972]

If you could help us out, please reach out to us at [email protected].

I’m happy to compensate you for your time via Zelle, PayPal, or any method that works best for you.

We’ve been trying to talk to dentists to better understand their needs, but most of them expect a 3-day turnaround, perfect quality, and only want to pay $100 per crown and $3,000 for a full arch with unlimited changes.

I don't mean to discourage you, but better to stay in real estate. As you have found out, what dentists need usually doesn't exist. And if it does exist, it's not going to be very profitable. You can ask any questions on this forum for free, and we will answer best we can. It's a community of sharing.

I don't have any special knowledge to sell, nor would I try to enrich myself by trying.

Good Luck on your new venture.

 

[tehnik]

If you could help us out, please reach out to us at [email protected].

I’m happy to compensate you for your time via Zelle, PayPal, or any method that works best for you.

We’ve been trying to talk to dentists to better understand their needs, but most of them expect a 3-day turnaround, perfect quality, and only want to pay $100 per crown and $3,000 for a full arch with unlimited changes.

At those prices you can sell them unfinished jobs. Just mill and sinter.