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As you could see with the bubbles it is incredibly hydrophilic? Why would you want that in a long term material, it is like a sponge for the nasty.
Im using it primarily for temp type products such as space maintainers in cases where an implant is integrating, or where a future bridge is planned but patient may need time to raise money etc. , also for low budget needsAs you could see with the bubbles it is incredibly hydrophilic? Why would you want that in a long term material, it is like a sponge for the nasty.
Thanks for keeping us up to date on your findings. It's really helpful.Well I got the first one finished and out the door.... Pt is very happy with the appliance.
I will be monitoring this case to see how it holds up and if staining or absorption becomes a problem.
The new disk out of the pack worked pretty well, i did put it in the dehydrator though for a couple hours. It till bubbled slightly, I think that may be from ome slight overheating in the vacuformer though.
As with any product there are certain times and applications where it is a good choice... nothing works for everything.Ditto previous two comments, I can currently see this only being suitable for temporaries.
Seems the worst problems known and discussed here are moisture management and near excessive absorbancy. Short term use only.Hi everyone,
I’m thinking to start using this product.
Any new positive reviews on this product?
What the most negative thoughts about it?
any new updates? its been about a year since this popped up on radar. would love some long term feedback on its odor absorbing properties. was thinking this might be great for an essix style retainer.Sorry I completely forgot to take pictures of it....
The 4c acrylic is very nice to work with, good working time, and in the working stage it doesn't sag.
Also the bonding liquid they call Fuse, while it may or may not be needed it does seem to enhance the tooth acrylic bond.
It has a very familiar smell, I think it may be mostly acetone.?
Even if the flexible stuff turns out to be crap I will continue with the acrylic.
Well been playing around with the 4c stuff a little more......got some of the acrylic and the fuse liquid.
The bond is Very good.
The flexibility is also surprising and appears to be quite durable.
I had put one of the sample disks in the dryer and apparently it wasn't long enough.....lol... see image.
Now these disks were samples and had been in the ambiant environment for who knows how long. I called Alex and talked with him about it and he reiterated that you should store the disks in a food dryer 24 hours a day at about 130 deg. once the bag is opened.
One of the cheap 25 dollar models he said works fine, no thermostat just on or off.
Anyway I will post some pics of a finished product after I get to that point.
Hi, is 4c the same material that sells qdent semi flex? Are these two different producers? greetingsWell been playing around with the 4c stuff a little more......got some of the acrylic and the fuse liquid.
The bond is Very good.
The flexibility is also surprising and appears to be quite durable.
I had put one of the sample disks in the dryer and apparently it wasn't long enough.....lol... see image.
Now these disks were samples and had been in the ambiant environment for who knows how long. I called Alex and talked with him about it and he reiterated that you should store the disks in a food dryer 24 hours a day at about 130 deg. once the bag is opened.
One of the cheap 25 dollar models he said works fine, no thermostat just on or off.
Anyway I will post some pics of a finished product after I get to that point.
two very different materials used and processed both in different ways for different uses.Hi, is 4c the same material that sells qdent semi flex? Are these two different producers? greetings