Lets Talk Computers!!!

[TheLabGuy]

Nice Al, looks like a great price on top of it. Any issues using Windows 10 'HOME' versus 'Professional' using 3Shape?...I know with Exocad they prefer we use Windows 10 Pro.

 

[Wainwright]

If anyone is interested I dug this up for anyone interested in knowing more about Windows 10 home vs pro.

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/fe...indows-10-pro-differences-new-features-718532

 

[Noob.Scared.Confused]

For the demanding tasks, I would still recommend building your own as most OEMs will charge hefty premiums for additional RAM, a beefier GPU, etc.
Might as well pick out your own and get exactly what you want.
Nowadays, a high-end Core i7 (especially the newer Lake generation) + 16GB RAM or more and a GTX1070 or more is all you need.
Make sure your OS lives on a SSD drive + regular hard drive for case archival (ideal would be a regularly backed-up server) and the rest is up to you.
I would select a power supply unit that has at least 20% headroom on top of your calculated power requirements, to allow it to work less hard (last longer) and allow for future expansion.

For the less demanding stations, my personal choice would be either Mac minis (you can install Windows if your software/workflow requires it) or iMacs if budget allows.
They are compact and silent, they look professional and are reliable machines. The cost is a little higher than a low-end PC, but they will last you longer and be more pleasant to use than the compromised hardware most econobox PCs use.

Mac mini is due for a refresh soon, so I would wait for the new model before committing.

I'll save the Apple-haters some time, I will not engage and argue with you, sorry!

Hello, Could you please let me know if this will suffice? T.I.A
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 8400 (6-Core, 9MB Cache, up to 4GHz with Intel(R) Turbo Boost Technology)
Windows 10 Home (64bit) English
460W APFC PSU Air Cooled Chassis
NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1060 with 6GB GDDR5
16GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2666MHz (2X8GB)
3.5" 2TB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
Not selected in this configuration
802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.1, Dual Band 2.4&5 GHz, 1x1
DW1820 Wireless Driver
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 Processor Label
No FGA

 

[Wainwright]

Hello, Could you please let me know if this will suffice? T.I.A
3.5" 2TB 7200 rpm Hard Drive

I think buying any computer today with only a spinning hard drive is a mistake. At the very least get a small 250gig SSD for the operating system with a spinner for file storage, at the very best get a 1tb SSD for operating system and storage. SSD hard drives are so cheap now...

Once you go SSD you never look back.

 

[sndmn2]

I just bought this
My current on is too slow a the end of large cases it slows way down.

View attachment 30339

.... and how is it working out so far ?

 

[TheLabGuy]

Hello, Could you please let me know if this will suffice? T.I.A
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 8400 (6-Core, 9MB Cache, up to 4GHz with Intel(R) Turbo Boost Technology)
Windows 10 Home (64bit) English
460W APFC PSU Air Cooled Chassis
NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1060 with 6GB GDDR5
16GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2666MHz (2X8GB)
3.5" 2TB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
Not selected in this configuration
802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.1, Dual Band 2.4&5 GHz, 1x1
DW1820 Wireless Driver
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 Processor Label
No FGA

Depends...what are you trying to use with it? How long before you are looking before you will upgrade again?

 

[KentPWalton]

I say build for what you need. You want a graphics/processing heavy pc for design. I also would say to get the faster Mghz of RAM for design. For CAM, a high end video card isn't really needed, so spend the extra money on more cores for processing. Most CAM soft wares these days will let you hyper-thread the processors, so it will be much faster on the camming side.

 

[Noob.Scared.Confused]

Depends...what are you trying to use with it? How long before you are looking before you will upgrade again?

Hello, 3shape, D2000 Scanner. I don't know when I would be upgrading again. It took me for ver to save money to buy this one LOL

 

[Noob.Scared.Confused]

I think buying any computer today with only a spinning hard drive is a mistake. At the very least get a small 250gig SSD for the operating system with a spinner for file storage, at the very best get a 1tb SSD for operating system and storage. SSD hard drives are so cheap now...

Once you go SSD you never look back.

Thank you so much!

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Might want to hold off on macs till this gets sorted if you're aiming high end:
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...i9-macbooks-run-so-hot-they-have-to-slow-down

i was referring to an iMac, not a Macbook. i think the iMacs are much better than their laptop brothers

 

[sndmn2]

Are some graphics cards more suited for cad then others ? The reason I ask I was just at the local techie place and they suggested a Quadro P2000 5GB card over the GeForce GTX 1070 8GB.

 

[KentPWalton]

Are some graphics cards more suited for cad then others ? The reason I ask I was just at the local techie place and they suggested a Quadro P2000 5GB card over the GeForce GTX 1070 8GB.

I'm not sure if the Quadro series of graphics cards are technically supported/tested by 3Shape now. The Gefore GTX series are usually good. The more RAM the better for designing.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Are some graphics cards more suited for cad then others ? The reason I ask I was just at the local techie place and they suggested a Quadro P2000 5GB card over the GeForce GTX 1070 8GB.

yes, be sure you stick with the ones suggested by 3shape. and i lean toward the GForce 1070 anyway

 

[Sevan P]

Here is my monster build i just did 8 months ago
Intel i7 7820X 3.6ghz 8 core
G.Skill TridentZ 64GB DDR4 Sdram 3200 (PC4 25600) (4x16gb)
MSI X299 Gaming Pro Carbon motherboard
Samsung 512GB 960 Pro m.2 SSD (as boot drive)
Western Digital 2tb Desktop Performance Caviar Black HDD (data storage)
Evga GeForce GTTX 1080 Ti FTW3 11gb GDDR5X
Evga SuperNova 750watt 80plus gold certified
Noctua NH-D15S cooler
All inside a Antec 1200 case.

Runs 3shape like a charm powers through large cases no issues. Should do well with cam software as well.

But instead of the 1080Ti i would of gone the route of Quadro P4000 for a touch more it kills the 1080Ti and top AMD cards like they were nothing!

Pics of my build:

 

[Sevan P]

 

[JMN]

Here is my monster build i just did 8 months ago
Intel i7 7820X 3.6ghz 8 core
G.Skill TridentZ 64GB DDR4 Sdram 3200 (PC4 25600) (4x16gb)
MSI X299 Gaming Pro Carbon motherboard
Samsung 512GB 960 Pro m.2 SSD (as boot drive)
Western Digital 2tb Desktop Performance Caviar Black HDD (data storage)
Evga GeForce GTTX 1080 Ti FTW3 11gb GDDR5X
Evga SuperNova 750watt 80plus gold certified
Noctua NH-D15S cooler
All inside a Antec 1200 case.

Runs 3shape like a charm powers through large cases no issues. Should do well with cam software as well.

But instead of the 1080Ti i would of gone the route of Quadro P4000 for a touch more it kills the 1080Ti and top AMD cards like they were nothing!

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Wipes chin.

 

[Sevan P]

I'm not sure if the Quadro series of graphics cards are technically supported/tested by 3Shape now. The Gefore GTX series are usually good. The more RAM the better for designing.

Quadrio P4000 on a solidworks bench mark blew all graphics out of the water!

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[sndmn2]

Do you have that thing on its own dedicated circuit ? Did you see any test results on the Quadrio P2000 5 GIG Card?

 

[Sevan P]

Do you have that thing on its own dedicated circuit ? Did you see any test results on the Quadrio P2000 5 GIG Card?

Here is a good video to watch about xenon and quadro.



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[sndmn2]

Interesting, thanks. I don't understand it completely how they all interact but trying to learn. Anybody have any experience with the Quatro cards ?