Best Zirconia for Substructure? (Pre-stained and liquid stain)

[WENDY]

What zirconia brand do you use for substructure (copings)?
Do you recommened pre-stained or liquid stain?



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[Car 54]

What I'm milling right now... Zenostar T series. The TO can be dipped, or I use the pre shaded ones once in awhile. Mostly dipping the TO.

 

[charles007]

Coping you say I still remember what they are but I can't remember the last time I fully layered zir..
Old school technique or getting paid high dollar.. I wish !
Only porcelain I use is on facials and few buccals, zirconia protected occlusions, but mostly using MiYO on zirconia ..

 

[Car 54]

Only porcelain I use is on facials and few buccals, zirconia protected occlusions

This is what I'm doing with the Zenostar, also. Otherwise it's FCZ or Monolithic emax for the posteriors.

 

[Sevan P]

Argen Ultra and Argen HT Liquid Shade or Zirkon Zahn Water based coloring liquids and slightly dilute.

 

[Car 54]

What I'm milling right now... Zenostar T series. The TO can be dipped, or I use the pre shaded ones once in awhile. Mostly dipping the TO.

I will follow up with that for longer span bridges I use the TO and color it, as it's about 1200mpa, as the pre colored T1, T2 etc are about 1000mpa.
I did call and ask if it weakens the TO in dipping it and was told no compared to dipping the pre colored. I still think fracture toughness is the more critical number though, compared to mpa.

 

[KIM]

Coping you say I still remember what they are but I can't remember the last time I fully layered zir..
Old school technique or getting paid high dollar.. I wish !
Only porcelain I use is on facials and few buccals, zirconia protected occlusions, but mostly using MiYO on zirconia ..

Nice Charles...So we just spent a week with a doctor who heads up a clinical program at a well known university so they could better understand MiYO and start some testing on it....We intentionally brought only white, unshaded ZR bridges in 3 different ZRs (3Y, 4Y, 5Y) as we were going to finish them only with MiYO. There were a lot of comments in the clinic when we tried in the white ZR in the patient..We custom shaded/colored them with MiYO to about an A3 and then fired them. They looked so good, no one could believe they were the same bridges upon seating.

 

[dmonwaxa]

Nice Charles...So we just spent a week with a doctor who heads up a clinical program at a well known university so they could better understand MiYO and start some testing on it....We intentionally brought only white, unshaded ZR bridges in 3 different ZRs (3Y, 4Y, 5Y) as we were going to finish them only with MiYO. There were a lot of comments in the clinic when we tried in the white ZR in the patient..We custom shaded/colored them with MiYO to about an A3 and then fired them. They looked so good, no one could believe they were the same bridges upon seating.

Photos please