Venting titanium implants

[skdawl]

Nice then you are dead right on screw retained. But in the lab I really don't care for the material or esthetic quality maybe I need to look further. Any suggestions are welcome.

 

[JohnWilson]

Before we started milling we did the majority with UCLA's and casting, when we went to Zirconia my world totally changed. Makes it so much easier and so easy for the client to hide the access hole.

By the way we make a jig to help them seat all screw retains that I have them save that acts as a guide to drill out the composite plug

 

[doug]

John, You just made my morning with that little bit of info about saving the seating jig.

 

[skdawl]

Before we started milling we did the majority with UCLA's and casting, when we went to Zirconia my world totally changed. Makes it so much easier and so easy for the client to hide the access hole.

By the way we make a jig to help them seat all screw retains that I have them save that acts as a guide to drill out the composite plug

John, You just made my morning with that little bit of info about saving the seating jig.

This is great and I agree it made my morning too. Finally a thread that takes a positive turn. Thanks. [emoji111] [emoji106]

 

[TheLabGuy]

Great Tip volleyball man

 

[Affinity]

great thread. I would say the majority of all my implants are screw-retained for sure. The word is out about retrievability..

Ive done access holes through the crown on cement-retained implants.. but I think this is a silly idea. I like dougs idea about making a putty die to express the excess material, before it goes in the mouth.

 

[NicelyMKV]

Great thread. Everything is screw retained in my lab if placement allows.

 

[Baobabtree]

And again no one wants to hear this but 'compatible' vs original components actually has merit in studies. It will only take 3-9 years to see our failures so save your pennies now I guess.

Sorry if I missed something along the way, do these studies suggest there is a problem long term with compatible abutments? Does this also imply that customised abutments via 3rd party milling centres are maybe flawed as well? Thanks in advance.

 

[rkm rdt]

Where's the study on failure rates of 1st party all zirconia bone level abutments?

 

[2thm8kr]

Where's the study on failure rates of 1st party all zirconia bone level abutments?

It got swept under the rug.

 

[skdawl]

http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?t=539145 Biomet recalled. This isn't a study but a thread that sounds a lot like us here. I'll try to gather some info and post more later since I'm sure my own personal notes from seminars and studies I've seen will not do. I have a lot to get done today and my kiddo is earning his Bobcat badge for Tiger scouts, but I will be back.[emoji4]

 

[2thm8kr]

http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?t=539145 Biomet recalled

Intelligent group over there.

 

[cadfan]

Venting holes 30 years ago on crap stock abutments with big fat cement as thin as a brick in the wall maybe but with thin cement not to much and low force no problem and with indiv abutments easily under the margin ( hybrid ) no perimlantitis because of cement remains. No trouble with the color if gingiva retraction an easier to clean than titanium.

 

[rkm rdt]

Intelligent group over there.

That site makes us look like ****y cats...Thanks for the link.

I liked this one. " I called you a moran so you would understand what I was talking about"

 

[skdawl]

That site makes us look like ****y cats...Thanks for the link.

I liked this one. " I called you a moran so you would understand what I was talking about"

Haha I was hoping someone else would be entertained by it. [emoji122]

 

[Affinity]

edit: I said 'access' holes in cement-retained, but I meant vent holes through the lingual.. couldnt find the edit button..

 

[lcmlabforum]

In my practice, about 95% are screw retained. Would make pt go for ASC if it was a compatible Noble implant and I can (typically) lute it outside the mouth
and convert to a screw-retained system. to John, he has been doing this 20 + years.
And I spend alot of time and starting to charge more to find the channel and 'convert' a cement retained crown into a screw retained system.
For full disclosure, my practice is prosthodontic, so there is inherent bias, FWIW.
LCM

 

[Affinity]

Intelligent group over there.

OMG, I could only read a few posts... Those reps make themselves look like real A-holes with those posts.. wow.

 

[rkm rdt]

Interesting insight into the implant world.

 

[rkm rdt]

OMG, I could only read a few posts... Those reps make themselves look like real A-holes with those posts.. wow.

No kidding, good thing it's not like that around here.