Glaze or Polish?

[ps2thtec]

What glaze are you spraying, the canned stuff or airbrush?

Airbrush

 

[Car 54]

I find that the Wow polish does not give that mirror appearance to the zirc. , unlike zirconbrite.

Has anyone ever rubbed two glazed crowns together? It feels like there is sand paper in between. But they appear
glazed smooth.

I spray my glaze on with an air brush so I don't have a problem with beading on application.

Thank you, ps2, I'll check into the Wow.

I called VH Technologies about the mirror effect, and he mentioned they were also getting requests from Drs about
that one after chair side adjusting (paste glazed fcz) and that they were trying to come up with a better polish,
but for now to try a med grit Diashine and go slow with the wheels or brushes. That conversation was awhile ago,
so I'm not sure if they came up with something by now.

 

[Brett Hansen CDT]

Thanks Devon! Your procedure is almost identical to a presenter I saw who works at Lee Culp's lab.

 

[DevonR]

Have you guys gotten complaints from your docs saying they don't like the look of polished full contour crowns 'in the mouth' ? In the mouth, does it look to shiny?

 

[DevonR]

Thanks Devon! Your procedure is almost identical to a presenter I saw who works at Lee Culp's lab.

that's who i learned it from.. haha


btw.. 7 seconds before posting again is annoying

 

[Brett Hansen CDT]

I haven't done any yet this way. That is what initiated my post. They definitely have a different look to them....more "pearlized" or opalescence.

 

[2thm8kr]

Airbrush

What brand glaze?

 

[ps2thtec]

What brand glaze?

 

[2thm8kr]

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Thanks, I think you have posted this before.

 

[Car 54]

I find that the Wow polish does not give that mirror appearance to the zirc. , unlike zirconbrite.
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Just ordered the 10 gram with a brush direct from Indenco for around $55. She was willing to mail it for around $5.50
Patterson had the kit (also includes a blue wheel) for about $87. plus 10.75 for shipping.

 

[Car 54]

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Your bench is waaay to clean Looks nice

What stain tray is that?

 

[ps2thtec]

Your bench is waaay to clean Looks nice

What stain tray is that?

It's an old gc tray that came with a light cure stain system Years ago. I think it was called Orbit? The system is no longer. Had it in the closet for years. They should make the tray again, but they don't.

 

[Car 54]

It's an old gc tray that came with a light cure stain system Years ago. I think it was called Orbit? The system is no longer. Had it in the closet for years. They should make the tray again, but they don't.

Shofu, can't remember, made a really nice one years ago that I wish I would've bought 3 of. I really like the layout and well size and depth.

 

[ps2thtec]

Shofu, can't remember, made a really nice one years ago that I wish I would've bought 3 of. I really like the layout and well size and depth.

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Add some liquid to those . Still have this old one too . The gc case plastic is crumbling, I think from the nasty
light cure fluid that was in the system.

 

[Car 54]

Add some liquid to those . Still have this old one too . The gc case plastic is crumbling, I think from the nasty
light cure fluid that was in the system.
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Nice looking tray.

It's my EX3 ILS powder stains, which I hardly ever use now that emax and FCZ are taking over. I'm going to clean it out and use it for my InSync stains.

 

[denttech1960]

One of my dentists asked me to polish his full contour Zi as it wears at the same rate as gold (when polished),as soon as it is glazed the crown somehow becomes harder and wears the opposing dentition? Not sure how that would happen and not sure how Zi is as soft as gold??

I believe he said Dr. Christenson mentioned this in a lecture.

Thanks for your input.

 

[Brent Harvey]

One of my dentists asked me to polish his full contour Zi as it wears at the same rate as gold (when polished),as soon as it is glazed the crown somehow becomes harder and wears the opposing dentition? Not sure how that would happen and not sure how Zi is as soft as gold??

I believe he said Dr. Christenson mentioned this in a lecture.

Thanks for your imput.

hes on the right track however not correct. Zirconia by itself is very abrasive, so polishing the occlusion will keep it from wearing the opposing. Glaze will work as well however the glaze will wear off in a year or 2.

 

[denttech1960]

Just a thought...Would it help if Zirliner was applied instead of glaze after polishing the occlusion? Would Zirliner wear off like the glaze?

 

[Brent Harvey]

All of those products wear off eventually, just polish the contact points for the opposing and the rest can be glazed. Those the only crucial polishing points.

 

[denttech1960]

Thanks, that is what I do now so I will continue as usual.