Framework Lab

[sidesh0wb0b]

That seems like a lot of wear and tear on your mill for the price of a frame.?

to clarify, the mill will be milling our frames regardless.

 

[Affinity]

People still want a hunk of chrome in their mouth? Im not selling the farm to mill chrome partials, and I have 2 mills that can do it, but what a nightmare that sounds like. Why not acetal or nylon or even better PEEK?

 

[CoolHandLuke]

did nearly 50 peek ones, 48 came back cause the pt hated how it felt in their mouth.

 

[thedenturespecialist]

Hello… Im looking for a good Framework Lab to outsource my metal partials.. turn around less than 2weeks please. I am located in Orlando Fl. Please Pm price list and turn around time.. thanks

I would try Denture Crafters in Blue Springs, MO. Or try Edmonds Dental is Springfield, MO. We have been using Edmonds for over 15 years and have always experienced receiving quality work!

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

People still want a hunk of chrome in their mouth? Im not selling the farm to mill chrome partials, and I have 2 mills that can do it, but what a nightmare that sounds like. Why not acetal or nylon or even better PEEK?

we do acetal and nylon and peek already.
while cocr wouldnt be my first option, its still requested all the time.

the growth into lighter frames made from ti has been steady though. but again the question still stands.

 

[evanosu]

That seems like a lot of wear and tear on your mill for the price of a frame.?

People still want a hunk of chrome in their mouth? Im not selling the farm to mill chrome partials, and I have 2 mills that can do it, but what a nightmare that sounds like. Why not acetal or nylon or even better PEEK?

LOL - I'm with you Affinity, not my first choice. But our lab did over 7,000 CoCr frames last year. It's a quality affordable option for many patients especially when given Medicaid or low insurance options. Acetal is not covered by Medicaid nor are flexible partials. If you really can afford it, you obviously go with implants but metal is still highly functional as an option.

 

[evanosu]

@evanosu has been great to work with. Frames are consistent, communication is good, price is right. Thank you so much for the compliment!

 

[evanosu]

@evanosu has been great to work with. Frames are consistent, communication is good, price is right.

Thank you for the compliment!! We'll keep doing our best!

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

LOL - I'm with you Affinity, not my first choice. But our lab did over 7,000 CoCr frames last year. It's a quality affordable option for many patients especially when given Medicaid or low insurance options. Acetal is not covered by Medicaid nor are flexible partials. If you really can afford it, you obviously go with implants but metal is still highly functional as an option.

sheeew thats a lot of metal frames! we are not that big of an operation, as @Affinity can attest to.
but even our meager 2 person removable dept still pushed out near 40 frames last month and are on pace for 50 this month. that doesnt include the PEEK, acetal, nylon, hard acrylic, or snowrock partials. this side of the industry is growing regardless of my preference toward it one way or the other!

 

[Inna-Hurry]

As a point of reference when considering milling vs sintering:
For around 100k you can purchase your own laser sintering machine. With the cost of an oven (not a burnout furnace!) you're looking at $150k.

There is more to the annealing process than what is described above. If that is the process that works for 3DRPD that's great but it doesn't sound like the temp is hot enough to relieve stress and removing the parts from the buildplate before relieving the stress could create problems with the fitting.

A better description of the annealing process for SLM production:
Insert the production platform with the manufactured objects into a suitable oven @ 650°C. Raise the temperature to 800°C over 12 minutes and hold for 15 minutes. Reduce the temp to 550C over 15 minutes. Once 550C is reached the platform can be removed from the oven for further processing.

From the outside looking in- seems like quite a monetary investment . I typically do 2-3 frames per month. Either Dr's. or myself design- then I send them out to a partial mill- they are servicable and shiny so cost for value is good.

If I were to invest $150k I would be lookind at 75 years before I had a positive ROI...


Seems big box corps. are taking over the dental offices around here and have labs they get discounted fees on lab work from.

 

[Inna-Hurry]

I use 3drpd which laser sinters the frames. They seem to be doing ok.

I would love for you to do my frames if in my budget!

 

[Affinity]

did nearly 50 peek ones, 48 came back cause the pt hated how it felt in their mouth.

is it rough on the tongue or what? maybe it doesnt polish as well, Ive never done one.

 

[ModelTech]

BonaDent has a long history of casting metal frames

 

[GG - J]

argen offers service from your design

 

[Aperricone]

Hello… Im looking for a good Framework Lab to outsource my metal partials.. turn around less than 2weeks please. I am located in Orlando Fl. Please Pm price list and turn around time.. thanks

Check out my RPD lab when you get a minute. gpsdigitalrpd.com, we're located in

Hello… Im looking for a good Framework Lab to outsource my metal partials.. turn around less than 2weeks please. I am located in Orlando Fl. Please Pm price list and turn around time.. thanks

Hi there, I own an RPD frame lab in Orlando, Fl. All digital SLM frames with dupe model included, 5 lab days. Check us out at gpsdigitalrpd.com, happy to help out. Thanks

 

[RPD Josh]

you already know the print process - put the file in the print software, lead material, press print.

for metals you take the printed object, remove any sprues, and throw it in an oven to anneal for 4-6 hrs. not a hot oven, only about 400F is needed. then ship if you're 3drpd.

You are close but a little off on the process there. You print the metal by laser welding the metal powder then throw that entire puck in the oven (supports have to remain on) and its between 800-1100 c for 15-60 minutes. then remove supports and do the normal finish polish process. The annealing oven is relieving the built up stresses from the rapid heating and cooling of the print process and without supports in place the partials would warp and distort. The oven temp needs to be pretty high for partials with a relatively rapid cool for flexibility where as bars and copings need a slow step down similar to zirconia. If you ever have any questions on the process we print a ton here at GPS Digital RPD and I am always willing to talk about the process or help if your having an issue with your printer.