Ok this is based on 100's of hours of Inlab (craplab) use but:
NO NO NO NO NO .....NOOOO! DO NOT GO NEAR EITHER OF THOSE TWO SYSTEMS! TRUST US, WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE YOU WASTING A TON OF MONEY.
Forget about cutting glass. Get a good quality wax mill or printer and cad design and press.
That way you get the best of both from a prodcution point of view, fits will be waaaay better then those two fisher price mills, and its way more ecconomical from a material perspective.
Apart from the crap scanner and mill (CEREC),aftersales support (at least in the UK) from both the distributor and Sirona is an obsolute joke. All they want is your money.
Its all based around smoke screens and lies.
These systems need to stay chair side where they were designed for, where the doc has full cotroll over prep design and a financial inccentive to wanna learn how to prep for its limitations. That is the only way of having a hope in hell of getting something close to a decent fit due to the use of a massive 1mm bur diameter of the unit (cerec).
Im pretty sure E4D has all the same issues from what ive heard.
Dont say we havnt warned you.
Oh and forget about milling wax with the inlab: burs clog all the time so its useless.
If you still wanna buy, give me a ring and make me an offer on our system. Its sitting here collecting dust. (im in the UK though)
"And if you do pull the trigger, save a round to send through your head...or just the inlab system."
LOL! it just made me pull all my hair out instead.
"If you are working with some real joker Drs that aren't willing to modify their technque on preparations. You might be urinating in a head wind to get good marginal fit."
Thats most mainstream clients then. Not so much Jokers, but no financial incentive to want to change prep design, so why should they. Just go to a lab thats pressing.
"Syrona dental = class action, a class suit, or a representative action is a form of lawsuit in which a large group of people collectively bring a claim to court "
Yes this is what need to be done. If anyone with inlab wants start a slush fund to take legal action against Sirona let me know. I Have black and white evidence of the problems but cant do anything without an experts report which is gonna cost $$.
Here is the crap from the ineosred scanner:
300um gaps, wow great.
Whats this! there is a bluecam now, OK lets check the accuracy specs for that..search!...search!...search!
Oh they dont publish them anywhere, apart from subjective data burried somewhere in a study. Accuracy data for the scanner is listed as N/A in the specs.
i wonder why that is! IS it because if its published as a specification it HAS to acheive it? Where as part of a subjective study it dosent? yes of course it is. More Smoke screens.
Sirona are very clever and as slipery as hell. Wouldnt trust em at all.