New Material - Lava Esthetic

[CADL]

Any beta testers out there have a chance to play around with this material yet? Looks interesting.

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1303313O/lava-esthetic-zirconia-brochure-for-labs.pdf

http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/Dental/P...our-Zirconia-Disc?N=5144617+3291669973&rt=rud

 

[rkm rdt]

Think I'll wait a bit longer before I jump back on the 3M bandwagon again.

 

[2thm8kr]

I like the idea of fluorescence, but I'm with rkm I'll wait and see if 3M has done clinical trials with this material or are they going to let the labs do it for them.

 

[user name]

I want to try some, but I don't think it will be available until the Chicago Mid-Winter meeting.

 

[Car 54]

Any beta testers out there have a chance to play around with this material yet? Looks interesting.

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1303313O/lava-esthetic-zirconia-brochure-for-labs.pdf

http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/Dental/P...our-Zirconia-Disc?N=5144617+3291669973&rt=rud

Looks interesting. I like the strength, the florescence, and at least they have more than just the A shades.

But with Katana STML and and I believe Zolid FX ML coming out with more shades, it may be hard to beat.

 

[2thm8kr]

Looks interesting. I like the strength, the florescence, and at least they have more than just the A shades.

But with Katana STML and and I believe Zolid FX ML coming out with more shades, it may be hard to beat.

And the other companies are probably less like to leave you twisting in the wind.

 

[Car 54]

And the other companies are probably less like to leave you twisting in the wind.

Agree, especially when you can get support like this from CAP/Zahn for the STML and FX: http://dentallabnetwork.com/forums/threads/zahn-dental-alternative-please.25173/#post-238692

If Jensen sells it, than that's a different story with their excellent support, but as you said, are the labs going to be doing their research for them?

 

[KIM]

I want to try some, but I don't think it will be available until the Chicago Mid-Winter meeting.

Depends on who you know!

 

[Car 54]

 

[user name]

Depends on who you know!

I just spoke with Nina; she said mid-winter. Please call me if I can get one to try.

 

[KIM]

I will share a little of what I know..... 3M already has a good number of labs working with Lava Esthetic over the last several months. It is 510k cleared and what stands out to me is that it is 800mpa and fluorescent. 3M is a research company by design and therefore, I believe has done a lot of work in prep for releasing this product. The feedback that I have heard from clients personally has been very good. Accurate shading and a very lifelike material all the way around. I believe there are 7 Vita shades that will be available immediately across the A-D range and they will have more coming. We are in the process of working with laboratories to evaluate this product as well as Jensen is the laboratory channel partner for 3M in the U.S.
Very exciting times as Jensen will soon be launching a new material as well.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

I like the idea of fluorescence, but I'm with rkm I'll wait and see if 3M has done clinical trials with this material or are they going to let the labs do it for them.

their fancy photos dont make you all tingly in the nether regions?

 

[Affinity]

if one company is offering something new and exciting you can bet theres a dozen more unveiling something similar in february..

 

[rkm rdt]

Waiting for Trump to make Lava Ultimate great again.

 

[2thm8kr]

Waiting for Trump to make Lava Ultimate great again.

It already is great if you need a temporary that is easy to remove.

 

[rkm rdt]

good point
My wife is on her way to the drs now.

 

[adl]

It already is great if you need a temporary that is easy to remove.

You'd still have to hurry to do the final crown, never know how long the temp is going to stay on

 

[Pam]

Has anyone been following McLaren on FB ? He's working with it and he said it's twice as strong as eMax with the same esthetics. He doing clinicals.

 

[Car 54]

Has anyone been following McLaren on FB ? He's working with it and he said it's twice as strong as eMax with the same esthetics. He doing clinicals.

I do like Ed McLaren, it will be nice to hear his feedback on it.

They are now saying emax is ~500mpa. They, Ivoclar, disclosed these new numbers about the time LiSi press ingots came out.

By the way Pam, welcome to the forum I also see you have your mood set to "Amazed", yes, it is pretty amazing to be here with all us on this FB alternative

 

[Pam]

Thanks I feel more plugged in now