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Hi guys , I'm using sum 3d now,
and I have little problem about the calculate time
It's sooooo looooonnnngggggg~~~~~
If i use the 5axis rotating strategy , the calculate time will kill me :mad::mad:

:arghh:last time I calculate this 12 units bridge, It almost spend 5hr for calculate!!!!

So... does anyone can give me the advise ??
about how to let the calculate faster??

thank you ;)
 
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Hello PinAn,
what's the spec. on your PC?
 
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Your PC system is more then enough. Theres something wrong for sure.
You should call your dealer - support.
When my CAM machine with less power do this calculation (not on SUM3D) it takes about 15-20 min.
Btw do you have any other programs installed on our PC? Sometimes it can interfere.
 
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Your changing tools 3 times for each side of the blank. You should rough both sides with the 2.5mm, then finish both sides with the 1mm. And I wouldn't bother with the .05 unless your finishing the anatomy on FCZ. Your machine has to change the tool, and run two references before it cuts with the tool. That's apx 60 seconds a tool change.
As far as a 5 hour calc, yea something's wrong in the settings.
I would see what happens when you use an old basic crown and bridge strategy that's never been edited, see if it calculates normal.
You should always have some basic strategies saved on the PC somewhere to use as a fresh template to build your custom strategies from.
There are so many variables in each strategies tree that sometimes things get missed or forgotten when adjusting the parameters.
 
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Marcus, my Haas does a tool change faster than flipping a disk.
Changing tools often is no big deal. It is OK to do One side completly in PMMA before the flip. No problems there.

I see many possible issues.

You have way too many <MATRES x.x> commands!

Only need it One time in the very first operation.

You have SIX, 5-axis operations for only One side!

Um, that is a LOT! What the..?

Who made up that strategy for ya? It looks stupid-crazy.

Where is your internal spiral for finishing? I don't see it? <SPIRAL 0/2/0.05><SPIRAL 2/0/0.09>

This does 50um passes for first 2mm of internal surface starting at margin, then goes to 90um for the remaining until the bottom.

Way too many 5-axis operations my friend!

I do see why this takes forever!
 
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I see many possible issues.

You have way too many <MATRES x.x> commands!

Only need it One time in the very first operation.

You have SIX, 5-axis operations for only One side!

Um, that is a LOT! What the..?

Who made up that strategy for ya? It looks stupid-crazy.

Where is your internal spiral for finishing? I don't see it?
Primus, I haven't played with sum3d in years, a lot of that has become unfamiliar to me. What is the MATRES command?
 
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Yes, I understand because it is kinda new. It re-draws the CAD of working part after an operation. This term stands for " Material Resolution". You can define how accurate the software re-draws the worked part after an operation. If you do not have this, then the part does not get updated after each operation.

Hey Pin...you need superfinishing for the final stuff on inside of crown (180 side). Not set to "Normal".

Maybe you have this, because I only see the setting is at "Normal" for the top(occlusal) side you have expanded in your pic.
 
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Pin-ball....give me your teamviewer ID and psswd in PM....(Now called a Conversation)



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Ok thank you ,and I edit this stupid strategy by my self. :(
 
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This is only way to learn!

Good for you to try!!

Keep trying, and maybe I suggest some ideas?
 
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thank you scott.
I know i can use the strategy for milling the undercut part(with (UC,and enable undercut function)
But that way will need another 4axis strategy ,
so I hope I can mill all surface with 5 axis in one strategy.
then.... I delete the <UC> command , and I found it will cost so much calculate time at huge bridge.
so I see you guys have a talk with save the calculate time with the <MATRES x.x> command
then I add it on my strategy for testing..


lol and that's what happened

I'm working off now , maybe i will update my strategy tomorrow
and thanks your advise alot
 
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Hey, I gotta go eat SUM-thing. LOL

Brad is jumping on your PC soon.....
 
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I miss having sum3d and the 340i to myself. Your lucky. I remember having nothing but fun.


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I check it in the morn...

Why are you still awake!!??

You are sick in the head my friend!

Go to sleep! LOL

It must be 3:00 AM wher eyou are, right?
 
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lol because I'm living taiwan now , now is 10:56 Tuesday
 
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