Luminescence

[Hourglass716]

Been using the Katana Noritake STML zirconia for anteriors and they are turning out really nice. However the full contour crowns have no luminescence. Is there any glazing compound that has luminescence that can be added on top?

 

[2thm8kr]

Emax fluo glaze is fluorescent.

 

[Hourglass716]

can I put emax fluo glaze onto zirconia? Will it hold after the bake?

 

[CatamountRob]

can I put emax fluo glaze onto zirconia? Will it hold after the bake?

Yes.

 

[Getoothachopper]

Jensen's 'InSync glaze paste' too . Great product & price

 

[Car 54]

InSync glaze may be a little more user friendly and a little less technique sensitive.

edit: as far as I know, no FCZ fluoresces, not just Katana. Zirconia in and of itself has no fluorescence. Am I wrong on this one, anybody, anybody, Bueller, Bueller?

 

[Tayebdental]

InSync glaze may be a little more user friendly, a little less technique sensitive.

edit: as far as I know, no FCZ fluoresces, not just Katana. Zirconia in and of itself has no fluorescence. Am I wrong on this one, anybody, anybody, Bueller, Bueller?

Good morning Scott,

That is true, but if you do a good job on the dipping liquids painting the case before sintering and finish it with a good stain and glaze procedure, you'll end up with a very nice and vital case.

 

[Car 54]

Good morning, Tayeb

Good point. Do the dipping, coloring liquids fluoresce, are they florescent?

 

[Tayebdental]

Good morning, Tayeb

Good point. Do the dipping, coloring liquids fluoresce, are they florescent?

I use 3M dipping liquids, you can achieve flourecene if you use this option from 3M.

 

[Car 54]

Thanks, Tayeb. I ask as I have the opportunity to use a friends sintering oven, and am now getting some samples of zirconia to color and sinter.

Is it better if a person uses a fluorescing coloring, dipping liquid that penetrates into the zirconia, then also uses a fluorescing glaze, that you can get a better florescent/luminescence restoration (esp anteriors) compared to just using a fluorescent glaze on the surface of a gradient zirconia?

Can that 3M product be used as a universal fluorescing agent on pre-sintered gradient zirconia where it says, "unshaded"?

 

[Tayebdental]

Thanks, Tayeb. I ask as I have the opportunity to use a friends sintering oven, and am now getting some samples of zirconia to color and sinter.

Is it better if a person uses a fluorescing coloring, dipping liquid that penetrates into the zirconia, then also uses a fluorescing glaze, that you can get a better florescent/luminescence restoration (esp anteriors) compared to just using a fluorescent glaze on the surface of a gradient zirconia?

Can that 3M product be used as a universal fluorescing agent on pre-sintered gradient zirconia where it says, "unshaded"?

Obviously you can use3M coloring liquids on many unshaded zirconia, but as we all know you have to experiment to achieve the desire recipe/ for the correct shades.
I do not use this 3M fluorescent method because it takes such a long time especially if you have many units to color.
The way I do it is I use 3M enamel shade such as EB enamel on the Incisal few layers again according to the desire shade and Use the dipping body shade on the grooves and then dip according to instructions.
I finish with stains from L&D and InSync glaze paste. Jensen Zirconia XT is my choice.
I hope I answered you questions.

 

[Car 54]

Yes it does. Thanks for the helpful tips. Trust me, I'll probably calling out for help here, as I get into it more.

 

[KIM]

Thanks for all of the positive feedback about InSync Stain & Glaze and Jensen XT Zirconia...... Just a couple of things:

- The Lava Plus "Fluorescence" liquid that some have mentioned is an "Effect Shade" and is painted onto the crown. Lava Plus dying liquids are not fluorescent themselves. The "Fluorescence" liquid does add a subtle level of fluorescence to the zirconia but is a bit time consuming.

- InSync Glaze is fluorescent and can be used on Zirconia, E.max, Titanium and PFMs.
Thanks again!

 

[Affinity]

How do dying liquids that 'are not flourescent themselves' , 'add a subtle level of fluorescence'? Sounds like marketing to me.

 

[user name]

Anyone remember the banned member years ago talking about using antifreeze to achieve fluorescence?

Ive been thinking about squeezing some juice out of highlighter pens and giving it a try.

 

[Tayebdental]

Highlighter won't stand a chance at 1540c, but something with metal oxide might!.

 

[2thm8kr]

Like uranium?

 

[CatamountRob]

or kryptonite?

 

[Affinity]

What is in insync or fluo glaze or CLF powders to make them fluoresce? Opal?

 

[CatamountRob]

Anyone remember the banned member years ago talking about using antifreeze to achieve fluorescence?

Ive been thinking about squeezing some juice out of highlighter pens and giving it a try.

You've got to be more specific; there've been lots of banned members......
Was this member in Virginia?