Diagnostic Wax Ups

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Is anyone out there using 3shape for their Diagnostic Wax ups?

I noticed there is an option for "Temporary on Unsection Scan"
I have never used it. So I have no idea about the results.

Just looking for some feedback.

thanks
 
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I have a Dr. very interested so I tried the Diagnostic Wax ups. I have not been able to do the wax ups. We were trying full mouth wax ups but there appears to be a bug that will not allow what we tried. Very disappointing.

If someone knows how to do the Diagnostic Wax ups, please let us know the secret.
 
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I have a Dr. very interested so I tried the Diagnostic Wax ups. I have not been able to do the wax ups. We were trying full mouth wax ups but there appears to be a bug that will not allow what we tried. Very disappointing.

If someone knows how to do the Diagnostic Wax ups, please let us know the secret.

Have you updated to the 2012 software?

I've messed around with it once, very cool. What I like about it is once you show the Dr and he approves, preps and sends you the case you can import the wax-up and use it for design
 
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its simple; we use a similar technique to what i am about to describe, in the design of orthotics and implant stents (with no drilled holes, which more or less twists the doctor's arm to get CT scans and do it the right way)

this is a simple process. for waxing a case like a full arch it gets a bit more complicated, but the process remains the same.

1. prep the case. you need one solid model with rough preps, and a set of singles with similar preps (given this is a case to show off your waxup skills, and not have temps milled, you can be lazy, just DONT touch the margins with a die ditch, and leave ALLL the tissue you can. model just looks better, and you get better ideas for natural eruption data).

2. scan an opposing or bite

3. each tooth do BOTH a coping AND a full contour. depending your preset anatomy library (you'll be looking to use your own if you have your own) you can also do Veneers instead of FC. Veneers is more forgiving on your preps too. the reason for this (even if you use Veneers) is the Coping output data can be used to print/mill PMMA, and have the reduction coping ready for the doctor when it comes time to prep. this makes the final product go faster as (in the case where no changes are to be made) you can print/mill everything all at once (even before the patient is prepped). wax/zirconia/pmmatemps, anything you want.

there is a slight drawback to this process though; some dentists can't prep or follow reduction guides. this makes it harder to go from start to finish on a case. sometimes doctors go very far submarginal. implants in the place of bridges is trickier to do.

for the most part though, this works. especially well with no-prep veneers. by far and away the better method (if youre good with the cad tools). but the most useful of all this is for manufacturing premade bondable PMMA orthotics, or non drilled implant surgical stents. doing waxups is fine, but proceeding from the waxup through the final stage isnt quite what ends up the final working case.
 
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which wax do you use for milling them? The milling waxes that I have seen don't seem to come in ideal colours for diagnostic cases
 
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we don't mill wax for diagnostics. we dont do them often actually, more or less for immediate temps, then the doc will change whatever he wants and its a simple flick of the wrist to get the permanent ones done.
 
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which wax do you use for milling them? The milling waxes that I have seen don't seem to come in ideal colours for diagnostic cases
I have a nice white milling wax!!
 
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I have to agree that the blue is really nice !
 
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which wax do you use for milling them? The milling waxes that I have seen don't seem to come in ideal colours for diagnostic cases

Hi-Tech has a Diadnostic White Wax, very soft but beautiful outcome.
 

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