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[Contraluz]

what does it means master of the dark arts of casting?

That you are very good at it...

it is very difficult to talk to dentist for bad implant placement- they d'ont like

Oh, I get it. But every now and then you may be able to point out 'areas to improve'...

 

[D1X06]

That you are very good at it...


Oh, I get it. But every now and then you may be able to point out 'areas to improve'...

THANK YOU for explication i my life i like any critic for example in sport -in work it push me up -for me it is no problem LIFE IS LEARNING

 

[CoolHandLuke]

very nice casting monsieur!

 

[D1X06]

very nice casting monsieur!

hello coolhandluke- you are a specialist in titanium? i have a hybrid construction on implant on which we will cement crowns and when i spray it for optical scan i see it is very hard to remove it after - is there a special surface treatment on titan?

 

[CoolHandLuke]

40% titanium is a joke from a television show, however yes there is a bit of special treatment for titanium if you are going to do bars this way.

as you know Titanium presents and Oxidization layer even 5 minutes after sandblasting, so be very careful and only blast one tooth at a time, and quickly add opaque. for big units like you have there, it takes a long time to do one tooth at a time, but if you are careful, it will work. opaque layer must be added before oxidization or else the opaque will not adhere, it will cure and simply fall off.

by adding the opaque straight away, you can begin scanning the surface and you won't need to add more scan spray because opaque is enough. so no more rubbing off the spray. the copings or crowns you design on this opaque layer will also require less adjustment to seat.

i don't like those big metal bars, its not easy to work with. i also fundamentally disagree with the philosophy of making this bar due to the amount of transferred force of mastication from tooth to implant; i think the bar should help absorb the impact instead of transferring force so i am conducting research into softer materials.

 

[D1X06]

40% titanium is a joke from a television show, however yes there is a bit of special treatment for titanium if you are going to do bars this way.

as you know Titanium presents and Oxidization layer even 5 minutes after sandblasting, so be very careful and only blast one tooth at a time, and quickly add opaque. for big units like you have there, it takes a long time to do one tooth at a time, but if you are careful, it will work. opaque layer must be added before oxidization or else the opaque will not adhere, it will cure and simply fall off.

by adding the opaque straight away, you can begin scanning the surface and you won't need to add more scan spray because opaque is enough. so no more rubbing off the spray. the copings or crowns you design on this opaque layer will also require less adjustment to seat.

i don't like those big metal bars, its not easy to work with. i also fundamentally disagree with the philosophy of making this bar due to the amount of transferred force of mastication from tooth to implant; i think the bar should help absorb the impact instead of transferring force so i am conducting research into softer materials.

thank you for your answer
it's an obligation to add opaque on titan frame ? i thought to make the gingiva in composite and the crowns in ceramometalique cemented on the titan frame
it's my first case in titan frame normally i work on screw retained cr-co frames

 

[D1X06]

thank you for your answer
it's an obligation to add opaque on titan frame ? i thought to make the gingiva in composite and the crowns in ceramometalique cemented on the titan frame
it's my first case in titan frame normally i work on screw retained cr-co frames

 

[D1X06]

an example of screw retained cr-co frame i realized somme months ago

 

[aqdental]

an example of screw retained cr-co frame i realized somme months ago

very nice work. Casting is not the only thing you are good at.

 

[lcmlabforum]

I think in Europe, CoCr is the rage. Even Straumann carries them called Coron
LCM

 

[CoolHandLuke]

thank you for your answer
it's an obligation to add opaque on titan frame ? i thought to make the gingiva in composite and the crowns in ceramometalique cemented on the titan frame
it's my first case in titan frame normally i work on screw retained cr-co frames

for adding composite, like Gradia or something similar, you will need to anodize titanium because composite bonding agent is transparent, and the composite is itself also not opaque. the grey metal will shine through and make a not nice pink colour. so making pink you can do a couple of ways: with composite you can anodize as i said, but with acrylics you can sandblast and add opaque, in preparation for adding pink acrylic and this is a working solution also for adding zirconia or Porcelain-over-titanium copings, or baking the porcelain straight onto the frame.

generally however, most people make crowns as a safe way to do remakes without removing the whole frame.

with anodizing however, its still not easy to scan the frame without spray. most Aerosol sprays leave filmy residue that is difficult to remove. i've only used Tinactin on stone but it should work for titanium too. yes it is an aerosol, but doesnt contain the same ingredients. if someone has tried Tinactin on a ti frame i will let them give you a better answer.

 

[D1X06]

for adding composite, like Gradia or something similar, you will need to anodize titanium because composite bonding agent is transparent, and the composite is itself also not opaque. the grey metal will shine through and make a not nice pink colour. so making pink you can do a couple of ways: with composite you can anodize as i said, but with acrylics you can sandblast and add opaque, in preparation for adding pink acrylic and this is a working solution also for adding zirconia or Porcelain-over-titanium copings, or baking the porcelain straight onto the frame.

generally however, most people make crowns as a safe way to do remakes without removing the whole frame.

with anodizing however, its still not easy to scan the frame without spray. most Aerosol sprays leave filmy residue that is difficult to remove. i've only used Tinactin on stone but it should work for titanium too. yes it is an aerosol, but doesnt contain the same ingredients. if someone has tried Tinactin on a ti frame i will let them give you a better answer.

i used scan spray "dentaco" very difficult to remove -now i changed using "Helling 3D"very easy to remove
anodize titanium what does it means? it's a kind of bonding agent?
do you start first with white cosmetic and after the pink cosmetic and how do you deal with the frontier of both?

 

[D1X06]

I think in Europe, CoCr is the rage. Even Straumann carries them called Coron
LCM

yes here in france cr co is the rage -cheap- cheapest -cr co

 

[CoolHandLuke]

i used scan spray "dentaco" very difficult to remove -now i changed using "Helling 3D"very easy to remove
anodize titanium what does it means? it's a kind of bonding agent?
do you start first with white cosmetic and after the pink cosmetic and how do you deal with the frontier of both?

Anodize, its a Verb, it means to change the oxidization layer of a material via acid and electricity. here is a video



if you are already using good spray, and can do good corrections for the grey shade of metal, no problem. if you are having difficulty acheiving good shades, this process might be something to consider.

 

[D1X06]

Anodize, its a Verb, it means to change the oxidization layer of a material via acid and electricity. here is a video



if you are already using good spray, and can do good corrections for the grey shade of metal, no problem. if you are having difficulty acheiving good shades, this process might be something to consider.

thanks for reply for correction of the grey shade of metal i go with a lighter frame and higher thickness of the frame
correction- the spray i used it's just for scanning

 

[D1X06]

it is very difficult to talk to dentist for bad implant placement- they d'ont like
i am frenchman and i learned the job in germany for long years
what does it means master of the dark arts of casting?

here are photos of the process "a lot of tears and spend a lot of time "to realized something correctly when i make the holes for the upper crowns i crashed two times the crowns
i have to remake
this are the e-max screw retaind homothetique crowns on 45 and 46 not layered just colored