I could go on and on about this....because what we do we techs usually do to get a denture case going?...we make these big @ss chunks of wax, called bite rims, and throw them into the mouth and thats the bite???? I'd bet most of the folks here go with that wax rim bite and start setting up teeth. I have my clients always take a CR bite, especially on immediate denture setups and mount from there, then throw in your wax rims. I find that the Docs out there never get an accurate bite rim, and how can we blame them, you throw this big mound of wax/foreign object into a patients mouth. Sure, they are suppose to remove the wax till the get right curve of spee, curve of wilson, mark midline, thompson sticks, etc... but you're asking a lot of your Docs/assistants to nail this consistently in my opinion. Also, don't even ask me about maxillary anterior alveoloplasty's, or should I say the lack of them. It's crazy to be a trained fixed tech and see what you removable folks are magically suppose to do on a daily basis.