VITA 3D- 5M1 conversion

[amadent]

Does anyone have a good conversion for vitas 5m1 to standard vita shade
i have a conversion chart that has been pretty good for most of the shades, however 5m1 is not even close
1/2 A4 + 1/2 C4 with a little pink modifer

sorry no pic

 

[TheLabGuy]

1/3 C3 + 2/3 C4 + a little pink modifier

 

[amadent]

1/3 C3 + 2/3 C4 + a little pink modifier

Thanks Rob, i will give that a try

 

[sixonice]

Does anyone have a good conversion for vitas 5m1 to standard vita shade
i have a conversion chart that has been pretty good for most of the shades, however 5m1 is not even close
1/2 A4 + 1/2 C4 with a little pink modifer

sorry no pic

the conversion chart that i have says the closest match to 5M1 is C4.

 

[charles007]

I have a handful of conversion charts from many brands of porcelain........what brand do you use ?

 

[amadent]

I have a handful of conversion charts from many brands of porcelain........what brand do you use ?

i use creation porcelain

 

[charles007]

i use creation porcelain

This is off Creations 2 chart for 5M1

Opaque C3

*Dentin SP26+HT53(1:1) Incisal 60+TI4 (3:1)

Second Creation Chart

Opaque C3

**Dentin (1/4 A3+3/4 C4) + 1/3 HT55 Incisal 60+TI4 (3:1)

* courtesy of Lords Dental Studio
** courtesy of Peter Biekert Dental Germany

Call Jensen to receive this chart...

 

[amadent]

Thanks for the info Charles

Have you tried the 1st conversion using the SP and HT (1:1) ?
Do you need to change your hight temp on your 1st bake due to the SP ?

i have said it before and i will say it agian
this site is great

 

[charles007]

amadent.....I have many conversions........they don't work period..... at least for me...........I use Vita with my 3D SHADES........

Will say that Robs, Jensens and GC's chart are better than the other conversion charts I have......

 

[amadent]

amadent.....I have many conversions........they don't work period..... at least for me...........I use Vita with my 3D SHADES........

Will say that Robs, Jensens and GC's chart are better than the other conversion charts I have......

right on
i have been fighting with alot of the conversion for way to long
i was just trying to not have to buy another porcelain system
but it is becoming more and more clear with what i need to do

 

[charles007]

right on
i have been fighting with alot of the conversion for way to long
i was just trying to not have to buy another porcelain system
but it is becoming more and more clear with what i need to do

The new Vita Master porcelain is priced much lower than the VM13 and has easier to use paste opaques. If your using a silver alloy, their Silver Modeling liquid with a slow cool will work for most alloy...the cte is fairly wide.
Best of all, 3D shades match period,.......
Avante also makes porcelain in the 3D shades.......don't know how well they match.......

Use the Second chart on that crown........Jensen called today and emailed a updated conversion chart that only shows the second chart on the shade.......

 

[amadent]

:questionmark:what a week this has been for conversions, since you were all nice enough to help me out last time
does anyone have a conversion for Esthe-X shade DG
we are restoring tooth # 24

would like to do case in emax, but if i have to do a PJ or even a pfm that would be fine
Dr. is leaving material choice up to lab