KingGhidorah
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Preferably a milling center with a high quality mill, that will finish the crown as well, anyone got any recommendations?
True, I’m just trying to avoid crappy mills though. Most labs have Roland’s which I’d like to avoidI believe Panthera does some lab tasks on demand. Other than that, why not outsource to a laboratory that's not a direct competitor?
East coast U.S.Where are you located? If in Canada we can help you out
OT, why do want to avoid Rolands?True, I’m just trying to avoid crappy mills though. Most labs have Roland’s which I’d like to avoid
Because if I’m sending to a milling center I’d like the highest quality I can get, and Roland’s are not consistent enough, and can’t mill margins as thin as I would wantOT, why do want to avoid Rolands?
Right now it’s just a test on my own crown to see how good a model-less workflow goes. I currently offer design services for other labs, and am wondering how it would turn out making crowns directly for dentists. Eventually I’m planning on going to school so I can figure out how to do those last steps myself, but for the time being I’m clueless how to do the stain and glaze step.How many crowns a day you want to have done?
Even Argen has thick margins - I can mill about half as thick as them without much issue but if you want those perfect margins you’ll end up with chipping.Because if I’m sending to a milling center I’d like the highest quality I can get, and Roland’s are not consistent enough, and can’t mill margins as thin as I would want
You can send one to me if you want. My email is in the signature. Currently milling on Zenotec Select with Ivoclar's Prime EstheticRight now it’s just a test on my own crown to see how good a model-less workflow goes. I currently offer design services for other labs, and am wondering how it would turn out making crowns directly for dentists. Eventually I’m planning on going to school so I can figure out how to do those last steps myself, but for the time being I’m clueless how to do the stain and glaze step.
I think Rolands are "fine" for your bread-and-butter zirc-work, but there are still some compromises- at least a whiff of a parting-line groove is something most people end up tolerating, for example. If I were a real perfectionist I could see trying hard to do better than that.OT, why do want to avoid Rolands?
The Z axis parting line is the real reason I don’t like Roland’s lol, but didn’t mention it because I was trying to avoid this thread turning into a debate on Roland’s lol. I’ve seen that parting line on almost every single Roland regardless of how much troubleshooting you do.I think Rolands are "fine" for your bread-and-butter zirc-work, but there are still some compromises- at least a whiff of a parting-line groove is something most people end up tolerating, for example. If I were a real perfectionist I could see trying hard to do better than that.
The flipside, of course, is that everybody's running Roland farms for simple C&B zirconia work for a reason, you don't really get precision-work workhorse mills for their price-point otherwise, it seems like. I'd think you'd have to charge a fair bit more for single-unit crowns and the like to get the same return on a beefier mill compared to a Roland. Not that I really know, I'm blessedly insulated from the business side of all this.
Pretty sure you have to be sponsor of this website to post that but i'll let the mods inform you @TravisWE are Glidewell Dental in Kent, Washington.
If you need Zirconia crowns to be milled from your STL files, reach out to us for a 2 day turn around.
Crowns are fully glazed and stained as requested.
Model printing available too if needed.
the minute Glidewell is a sponsor you gonna stop trashing glidewell?Pretty sure you have to be sponsor of this website to post that but i'll let the mods inform you @Travis