FCZ look terrible in the mouth

[TheLabGuy]

opaque p

popped clean off the metal....whats that tell you?.....do you know what type of np this is?...

going back to observing...communicating here hurts my brain...

Please refer to my post above!!!

 

[ParkwayDental]

I'm gunna be the first to say it Disturbed does some damn good work.

 

[charles007]

Mandible flexes for sure. Long spans like this end up with patients losing teeth to decay from bridges coming loose, porcelain failure, etc..
Years ago I use to order 25 attachments at a time to save $$ Now I probably do 12 attachment bridges per year because of the extra cost..
Really amazing me how so few doctors use attachments anymore.
Sterngold use to have a great segmented attachment video to watch with your accounts..
Maybe its to old school now..

 

[JohnWilson]

Its because the cements are a ton better Charles, its like night and day compared to 10 years ago.

 

[TomMor]

I own a small lab and I am thinking about purchasing milling equipment. I already have a scanner. I was just wondering if it is worth it to mill in house rather than using a milling center. The thing that puts the most doubt about getting any kind of ROI is that I have already lost some accounts to labs that are giving away FCZ's for 40$ per unit. How can that be profitable?

 

[DarrenS]

Here's an easy solution to failed PFM implant. Just my way of making a EBM(e.Max Bonded to Metal).

Failed PFM clearly seen

Reduce metal to even smaller than I did on this one, my first one of these.

Re wax to full contour.

Press in e.Max and bond with opaque Panavia 2.0 and you have a EBM screw retained with a ton of strength. Not trying to ruffle feathers of the guys who are making a living in something they believe in. I just believe there are easier and more esthetic ways of looking at things.

Everyone keep up with what you believe, just make it the best for the patient.


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[CoolHandLuke]

because they buy pucks at 100 bucks per, and make 100 units a day.

 

[DarrenS]

Here's an easy solution to failed PFM implant. Just my way of making a EBM(e.Max Bonded to Metal).
Sorry for double entry on that.

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[grantoz]

have a look at the zirkonzahn web sight if you want to see how its done with full contour zirk I've trained there many times its not bull**** it looks as good and better than anything else that's out .There is plenty of photos of crowns in the mouth .By the way I have just read a draft paper on 7 years follow up on layered zirconia crowns and bridges NO FAILURES NO CHIPPING NO CORE FRACTURES NO ABRASION OF THE OPPOSING .AS soon as I can I will put it on DLN.By the way Im not surprised at all about the results I saw a full lower zirk bridge that has been in the mouth 8 years now nothing wrong it is on 6 implants.It was 1 or the 1st I milled by hand.Also check out Micth Unwrath I think he is in Arizona he is a great zirconia specialist I don't say that lightly.

 

[rkm rdt]

There is not one material that is perfect for every situation.

 

[Drizzt]

posting pics here is a pain. you want to see some of my work? find me on facebook. as far as the video goes.. still waiting on scott to mill me a Hammer out of zr..

What's is your real name disturbed to find you on Facebook ? Thanks

 

[rkm rdt]

Mandible flexes for sure. Long spans like this end up with patients losing teeth to decay from bridges coming loose, porcelain failure, etc..
Years ago I use to order 25 attachments at a time to save $$ Now I probably do 12 attachment bridges per year because of the extra cost..
Really amazing me how so few doctors use attachments anymore.
Sterngold use to have a great segmented attachment video to watch with your accounts..
Maybe its to old school now..

I think it's because we are doing more implant cases.

 

[CatamountRob]

no

mung

Canadian mung, if I'm not mistaken...
Which, interestingly, is the same term Vermonters use for maple syrup made North of the border.....

 

[kimba]

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cordueroy

There is not one material that is perfect for every situation.

corduroy is perfect for all situations

 

[CatamountRob]

c


corduroy is perfect for all situations

Not if you're trying to sneak up on someone.
Not that I do that or nothin'.....

 

[TheLabGuy]

Here's an easy solution to failed PFM implant. Just my way of making a EBM(e.Max Bonded to Metal).


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Darren, I have to ask why the implant splinting? In addition, why not bring the margins more towards the tissue? Makes no sense to me to have an all ceramic restoration when you're still seeing metal.

 

[TheLabGuy]

Mandible flexes for sure. Long spans like this end up with patients losing teeth to decay from bridges coming loose, porcelain failure, etc..
Years ago I use to order 25 attachments at a time to save $$ Now I probably do 12 attachment bridges per year because of the extra cost..
Really amazing me how so few doctors use attachments anymore.
Sterngold use to have a great segmented attachment video to watch with your accounts..
Maybe its to old school now..

I agree, it wouldn't of mattered what material was there...even if it was BruxZir the cement would have given away. That is a great picture of mandible flexure, and something I think most GD's don't think about when tx planning and worse off in my opinion, we techs don't look out for our Docs.

 

[Al.]

c


corduroy is perfect for all situations

No shag is king.
I still have my carpet rake.

 

[DarrenS]

Darren, I have to ask why the implant splinting? In addition, why not bring the margins more towards the tissue? Makes no sense to me to have an all ceramic restoration when you're still seeing metal.

The patient had limited funds and this case was out of warranty. Doc gave them a good and fair price to repair than to replace. As for it being splinted together, my best guess knowing the doc I work directly under has a good reason. Strupp has a lot of work in patients mouths that have lasted a long time. Also this is one of the first ones we did a trial on. I am now making multiple unit cases like this with no metal showing. We have made them look natural and cleanable. If that answers your question. They are like a hybrid denture, but with e.Max instead of denture teeth.
This one came out nice. Posted in case presentation thread. No metal anywhere except in the functional anterior guidance. Would never do with denture teeth.

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[Affinity]

looks like you forgot to use seperator on your gingiva..

You pressed emax over this bridge? Have you worked with Dr strupp?