Emax Press Investment question

[finnster68]

Hi all

Just wondering for those doing Emax Press what Investment material are you using.

Im currently using the IPS PressVest Speed, which is a very nice investment and the results are great however its extremely expensive.

Anyone using something different and getting nice results.

Ive tried a few others so far, Microstar HSPC and my standard C&B investment but the results around the margins left a lot to be desired.

Thanks
Tony

 

[JohnWilson]

Hi all

Just wondering for those doing Emax Press what Investment material are you using.

Im currently using the IPS PressVest Speed, which is a very nice investment and the results are great however its extremely expensive.

Anyone using something different and getting nice results.

Ive tried a few others so far, Microstar HSPC and my standard C&B investment but the results around the margins left a lot to be desired.

Thanks
Tony

Whipmix Formula !

 

[TheLabGuy]

Whipmix Formula !

Ditto

 

[finnster68]

Ok thanks boys, ill give my local rep a buzz and see if i can get some to try.

Just as a matter of interest, have either of you used the IPS PressVest Speed by any chance?

Just did some maths and PressVest Speed works out at $11.60 a 100g bag.

Formula is around $2.60 Big difference if it produces the same results



Tony

 

[zena]

I've used the IPS Press Vest speed stuff, It worked fine. I had more problems with their regular investment the one for overnight burnout, so I stop using Ivoclars investment. I use Microstar for all my pressables.

 

[zena]

Hi all

Just wondering for those doing Emax Press what Investment material are you using.

Im currently using the IPS PressVest Speed, which is a very nice investment and the results are great however its extremely expensive.

Anyone using something different and getting nice results.

Ive tried a few others so far, Microstar HSPC and my standard C&B investment but the results around the margins left a lot to be desired.

Thanks
Tony

What was the result around the margins? Chipped?

 

[finnster68]

What was the result around the margins? Chipped?

Yeah chicken, they seemed to be sort of chipped and very sharp/jagged, certainly nothing like what i waxed up.

I thought originally maybe i had over blasted the crowns but i take extreme care when devesting and only use glass bead at 1 Bar near the margins.

Its possible it was a technique thing as i only tried the MicroStar just the once, not sure what i could have done wrong though

 

[zena]

Yeah chicken, they seemed to be sort of chipped and very sharp/jagged, certainly nothing like what i waxed up.

I thought originally maybe i had over blasted the crowns but i take extreme care when devesting and only use glass bead at 1 Bar near the margins.

Its possible it was a technique thing as i only tried the MicroStar just the once, not sure what i could have done wrong though

I find with mircostar it has to be very well handmixed before heading to the whip mixer. If not I get funny spikey things on my margins, I call it flash when I see it. When I do that 30second good hand mix I don't have that promblem.

 

[Al.]

Ok thanks boys, ill give my local rep a buzz and see if i can get some to try.

Just as a matter of interest, have either of you used the IPS PressVest Speed by any chance?

Just did some maths and PressVest Speed works out at $11.60 a 100g bag.

Formula is around $2.60 Big difference if it produces the same results



Tony

Where are you located? I just got a box of pressvest for $144. It has 50
100g pkgs. thats $2.88 per bag.

 

[finnster68]

Where are you located? I just got a box of pressvest for $144. It has 50
100g pkgs. thats $2.88 per bag.

Hmm seems like im getting rogered

Im in Australia Al and it costs me $292.88 for 25 x 100g bags inc liquid to be delivered to the Lab

 

[dhdc]

I posted a similar thread to this a while back,im from Aus and we are paying the same for pressvest speed,it i s soooooo over priced,,,,,,,but,i have just finished a box of Microstar and the time it has taken to get the margins right after pressing with Microstar it is not worth the saving.I just make sure i always press wuth 3 units in one ring,or re press with the emax button.

 

[finnster68]

Yeah I tried a lot of different investments, none gave the consistently good results for me compared to the IPS press vest speed so I have stuck with it

 

[doug]

We use Microstar exclusively for all ceramic and do both fast-fire and over night with it. We haven't see any problems with the investment, even in the margin areas. Our only real problem was when our muffle in the EP500 started to go out. Once that was replaces and calibrated, we were back on track. We do use the Aquaspense from Whipmix to measure all of our liquids for investing and have a VPM2 for mixing. Both very consistent.

 

[rkm rdt]

I think you Aussies should pay twice as much as everyone else!

Serves you right for giving us that band 'Air Supply"...of course I guess I should blame Celine Dion for the same reason:canada:

 

[AL1]

I use microstar for everything and it worked great from day one.