Drizzt
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Thanks for the heads up Drizzt. I used vm9 over metal implant, light 3d shade, had to remake... value off..
Remade using CZR Value porcelain and got a very nice shade.. I guess the CZR Shade Base Stains mades the difference ?
Can't seem to get good 3d shades using vm9 on zirconia and I never had problems using Vita 900, vm13, or Master on 3d shades in metal ceramics.
Vita is history in my lab. lol
Drizzt, have you tried using Shofu's Vintage Art stains directly on zirconia frames for more chroma, etc ? just curious if many labs use it ?
hard to beat CZR Charles but that GC looks great too Drizzt.Top
Love those kind of cases.
Hey Dimitri, are you trying out all the porcelain systems? GC, Shofu and Creation is next. I would be curious to know the pros and cons of each porcelain that you have used once you decide which one you prefer most. Maybe open a new thread if you feel like it and ranking them.
Also, your work is awesome! It doesn't matter what porcelain you use.
Update: I just read the Shofu Vintage ZR thread after posting this and it seems the pros and cons of some porcelain systems are being discussed there.
hi Drizzt, what you didn't like about V13? Just curios.I had some value issues with e.max ceram over metal , but it really depends on the thickness of the frame and the kind of zirconia I think . Noritake Katana , e.g. is less translucent compared to Dental Direkt . For this case , I used dental direkt because I didn't know it was a metal post . If I knew , I would have used Noritake .
I was also using Vita , VM13 and VM9 . 13 is the worst porcelain I have ever used , but I like VM9 . Haven't used that in a while though .
I have used them , but I am coloring pre-sintering my frames , and I prefer to use powders to make characterization before my build up .
There is nothing I liked about VM13 . Probably something I wasn't doing correctly , but couldn't work with it . Too much tearing , shades were too greyish , incosistent shrinkage . Switched to Inline and everything was easy !H
hi Drizzt, what you didn't like about V13? Just curios.
Great work btw, please keep posting.
I usually prefer bikinis , but that one piece looks real Good!