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Zirconium Titanium Hybrid?
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<blockquote data-quote="RJS8669" data-source="post: 209743" data-attributes="member: 5742"><p>I've been in the biz since 1984, as well. I recently put out my first ZiHy full arch bridge completed on 6 Straumann Variobases. It turned out really well, in my opinion. </p><p></p><p>Here's how I developed the skills necessary to complete the job - </p><p></p><p>First, I've been using 3Shape for more than 6 years, and before that I had a Procera set-up and worked with Cynovad, as well. I'm a decent technician, and I know my way around the software pretty well - not as well and CHL - but enough to get most jobs done. </p><p></p><p> I saw the potential for this type of case a few years ago when CAP introduced their IZIR process using NT 2-Connect components. I spent around $2000 flying up to Boston and taking the class there. I did a couple of small screw-retained bridges using what I learned, but never did a full arch. </p><p></p><p> Last year, I arranged to visit and spend the day with a fellow DLN member (I won't divulge his name because I'm not sure he would want everyone knowing how much he helped me, but if he wants to chime in...). Again, probably spent close to $2k in flights, hotels and one nice bottle of scotch for my mentor) That was last January. It took a year for me to get a case where I felt comfortable in saying I could complete the work with a certain level of competency. Even then, I had to check in with my mentor to look over my design, and then again to help me out with the actual milling of the restoration (Spent another $1000 in zirconia pucks cuz the damn thing cracked 3 different times during sintering - we were trying to to go it alone and missed a couple of things that contributed to the error.</p><p></p><p>Anyway - my point is I spent a bunch of money and time getting schooled. I appreciate that you are not asking for a cookbook solution. But, simply to ask what module to use isn't going to help you much. These things are complicated. I strongly suggest you contact CAP or Core3D and find out if they have any upcoming courses. Or, find your own mentor. Good luck with that - I was incredibly fortunate to have found someone who was so willing to share his time and expertise. Maybe there is someone out there for you...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RJS8669, post: 209743, member: 5742"] I've been in the biz since 1984, as well. I recently put out my first ZiHy full arch bridge completed on 6 Straumann Variobases. It turned out really well, in my opinion. Here's how I developed the skills necessary to complete the job - First, I've been using 3Shape for more than 6 years, and before that I had a Procera set-up and worked with Cynovad, as well. I'm a decent technician, and I know my way around the software pretty well - not as well and CHL - but enough to get most jobs done. I saw the potential for this type of case a few years ago when CAP introduced their IZIR process using NT 2-Connect components. I spent around $2000 flying up to Boston and taking the class there. I did a couple of small screw-retained bridges using what I learned, but never did a full arch. Last year, I arranged to visit and spend the day with a fellow DLN member (I won't divulge his name because I'm not sure he would want everyone knowing how much he helped me, but if he wants to chime in...). Again, probably spent close to $2k in flights, hotels and one nice bottle of scotch for my mentor) That was last January. It took a year for me to get a case where I felt comfortable in saying I could complete the work with a certain level of competency. Even then, I had to check in with my mentor to look over my design, and then again to help me out with the actual milling of the restoration (Spent another $1000 in zirconia pucks cuz the damn thing cracked 3 different times during sintering - we were trying to to go it alone and missed a couple of things that contributed to the error. Anyway - my point is I spent a bunch of money and time getting schooled. I appreciate that you are not asking for a cookbook solution. But, simply to ask what module to use isn't going to help you much. These things are complicated. I strongly suggest you contact CAP or Core3D and find out if they have any upcoming courses. Or, find your own mentor. Good luck with that - I was incredibly fortunate to have found someone who was so willing to share his time and expertise. Maybe there is someone out there for you... [/QUOTE]
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