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<blockquote data-quote="2thbob" data-source="post: 18057" data-attributes="member: 1524"><p>The instructions are almost none. They say press-over electroplated frameworks, but I think more correctly they mean electroformed. Rep says they used the unit from gramm. Identical results (Im told) to what youd get using Wielands AGC micro. < they advertise using their electrolyte with the Gramm, Heraeus' Preziano IQ (cant find info),and Degudents Solaris...not available in the U.S.A. Im not sure if this technique works with cast frames, they dont say so, but if your alloy had the same cte as pure gold ??? Ivoclar has some paste opaques...But after you fire the coping and conditioner, re-verify the fit on the die before you opaque just to make sure you didnt squeeze it and distort, or youll pop some opaque when you seat it to wax. .2mm is stiff enough, but Ive tried to cut it short and save on the gold and just have essentially a flash-foil thin coping and thats asking for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2thbob, post: 18057, member: 1524"] The instructions are almost none. They say press-over electroplated frameworks, but I think more correctly they mean electroformed. Rep says they used the unit from gramm. Identical results (Im told) to what youd get using Wielands AGC micro. < they advertise using their electrolyte with the Gramm, Heraeus' Preziano IQ (cant find info),and Degudents Solaris...not available in the U.S.A. Im not sure if this technique works with cast frames, they dont say so, but if your alloy had the same cte as pure gold ??? Ivoclar has some paste opaques...But after you fire the coping and conditioner, re-verify the fit on the die before you opaque just to make sure you didnt squeeze it and distort, or youll pop some opaque when you seat it to wax. .2mm is stiff enough, but Ive tried to cut it short and save on the gold and just have essentially a flash-foil thin coping and thats asking for it. [/QUOTE]
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