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What features would you like in a burnout oven?
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<blockquote data-quote="dfshorn1" data-source="post: 29254" data-attributes="member: 2975"><p><strong><img src="/forums/images/smilies/test/burnout.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="Burnout" title="Burnout Burnout" data-shortname="Burnout" /> oven features</strong></p><p></p><p>John,</p><p>It would seem by the replies that I have read that the burnout ovens currently available seem to meet most of the needs of its users. I do agree with the need for power failure recovery. That is a must and will be on my controllers. </p><p>I have designed remote access capabilities into my porcelain and pressing furnaces. While primarily for remote troubleshooting, it would also allow one tech to run/ oversee muliple furnaces, (2 to 256 furnaces). I ran this idea to many of the largest labs in the country and NO ONE was interested. My additional software cost was a single $250.00. Money was not the issue. They just did not care for the idea. The added expense in a burnout oven makes it impractical.</p><p>Activated charcoal filters are not a new idea and have been around for decades. They are expensive to manufacture and as a result, most lab owners would rather put up with the smell or use extraction fans. I am researching what the cost impact would be for a filter system. The door on my oven will open downward, not to the left, right or upwards.</p><p></p><p>I agree with wyolab, I am not into all sorts of bells and whistles. Many labs won't use them anyway. Most technicians that I have talked with do not use multiple stages anymore. So, how many stages should I have? I am looking at only 2 stages at this time. Also, what about heat rate? The larger ovens offer heat rates to 50C / 72F degrees per minute max, but can only delivery that rate to about 1000 - 1200F or so, than they fall off to about 20 - 25F p/m by 1600F. Does this really matter to anyone and why? </p><p>And last, as wyolab mentioned, <u>price</u>. Like my porcelain and pressing furnaces, I intended to challenge the current price levels of both sizes of burnout ovens for the quality received.</p><p>I am planning to have some prototypes ready to show in Chicago. Here is your chance to give some input.</p><p></p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dfshorn1, post: 29254, member: 2975"] [b]Burnout oven features[/b] John, It would seem by the replies that I have read that the burnout ovens currently available seem to meet most of the needs of its users. I do agree with the need for power failure recovery. That is a must and will be on my controllers. I have designed remote access capabilities into my porcelain and pressing furnaces. While primarily for remote troubleshooting, it would also allow one tech to run/ oversee muliple furnaces, (2 to 256 furnaces). I ran this idea to many of the largest labs in the country and NO ONE was interested. My additional software cost was a single $250.00. Money was not the issue. They just did not care for the idea. The added expense in a burnout oven makes it impractical. Activated charcoal filters are not a new idea and have been around for decades. They are expensive to manufacture and as a result, most lab owners would rather put up with the smell or use extraction fans. I am researching what the cost impact would be for a filter system. The door on my oven will open downward, not to the left, right or upwards. I agree with wyolab, I am not into all sorts of bells and whistles. Many labs won't use them anyway. Most technicians that I have talked with do not use multiple stages anymore. So, how many stages should I have? I am looking at only 2 stages at this time. Also, what about heat rate? The larger ovens offer heat rates to 50C / 72F degrees per minute max, but can only delivery that rate to about 1000 - 1200F or so, than they fall off to about 20 - 25F p/m by 1600F. Does this really matter to anyone and why? And last, as wyolab mentioned, [U]price[/U]. Like my porcelain and pressing furnaces, I intended to challenge the current price levels of both sizes of burnout ovens for the quality received. I am planning to have some prototypes ready to show in Chicago. Here is your chance to give some input. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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