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Lab talk, the good, the bad, and the ugly
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VM13 vs Inline
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<blockquote data-quote="charles007" data-source="post: 23364" data-attributes="member: 9"><p>Jeff, I made 3 3D shades this week with my VM13 using their new non-greeing liquid in a one fire, no add-ons, and glaze. I certainly can't explain why the non-greening liquid helped, but it does handle better and no lifting at the margins or tearing....... ANY IDEAS ANYONE?</p><p></p><p>Was told by both GC and Ivoclar reps that their One Powder porcelains have fewer technique problems than regular Inline and GC Initial MC. </p><p></p><p>Since I've only made 5 single crowns with the Master, I'm not sure what to say about it. Shades are right on, paste opaque covers well, stacks great, haven't had any tearing or lifting so far. </p><p></p><p>I don't like paying the big bucks for Vita porcelain even though I have for many years. Also don't like using 2 porcelains since I receive 3D shades. Using Master will solve that problem if it doesn't tear like my VM13 does, or is that past tense with the non-greening liq ?</p><p></p><p>30% saving with Inline..hmmm ......I've already got a free trial kit of the One Powder Inline on the way... "don't tell anyone", you can use Vita stains with it.......not that I'm recommending to do that!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="charles007, post: 23364, member: 9"] Jeff, I made 3 3D shades this week with my VM13 using their new non-greeing liquid in a one fire, no add-ons, and glaze. I certainly can't explain why the non-greening liquid helped, but it does handle better and no lifting at the margins or tearing....... ANY IDEAS ANYONE? Was told by both GC and Ivoclar reps that their One Powder porcelains have fewer technique problems than regular Inline and GC Initial MC. Since I've only made 5 single crowns with the Master, I'm not sure what to say about it. Shades are right on, paste opaque covers well, stacks great, haven't had any tearing or lifting so far. I don't like paying the big bucks for Vita porcelain even though I have for many years. Also don't like using 2 porcelains since I receive 3D shades. Using Master will solve that problem if it doesn't tear like my VM13 does, or is that past tense with the non-greening liq ? 30% saving with Inline..hmmm ......I've already got a free trial kit of the One Powder Inline on the way... "don't tell anyone", you can use Vita stains with it.......not that I'm recommending to do that!! [/QUOTE]
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