Thanks, I didn't see a Kenson shade 60 on my guide and couldn't find the conversion so I went with Kenson shade 61 that converts to an A1. I went with that although that brand of A1 almost looks like a B62, big difference between A1 and A3 though (it's already out for try-in so we'll see...... Where did you find the conversion chart for Kenson BTW?