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<blockquote data-quote="Drizzt" data-source="post: 171897" data-attributes="member: 4075"><p>Grantoz , I would never put a restoration like this in my own mouth . For many many reasons . First of all , it is too damn heavy . Second , it is too damn hard . This without a doubt will kill the opposite dentition . Can you swear that the dentist will polish perfectly the zirconia after adjustments so it will not wear the opposite ? Also zero elasticity . From what I have learned so far , this is not implant's best friend . Please , share studies showing us the long term effect . Independent studies , not ZZ sponsored studies . </p><p></p><p>Also 10 years doing Prettau ?? Wow , you must have worked with this material before it was even released to the public , because from what I know this kind of restorations are around for 6-7 years now . So not much diffrence with the PEEK stuff right ? You say no chipping of the teeth . Natural teeth are not indestructable . They crack , they chip , they break . Why should we put something indestructable in our mouth ? </p><p></p><p>Also composites not looking good ? Really ?? I have seen far more porcelain not looking good than composite . Plus composite can be fixed really easily chairside , can you say the same about Prettau ? </p><p></p><p>Also what about fatigue ? Doesn't this concerns you ? I have seen many many prettau or prettaue style bridges snap in half after 2-3 years in the mouth . Too many variables . </p><p></p><p>My concern is the best for the patient , and my criteria for pushing a restoration like this , is if I would chose it if I was the patient , or my family . plain and simple . I this is not a restoration I would choose for me or my family . And I have more faith in a high quality lab that I know is doing things like they were supposed to be done , not cutting corners , than a company that wants to make the more money they can . </p><p></p><p>So , let's agree we disagree on that subject .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Drizzt, post: 171897, member: 4075"] Grantoz , I would never put a restoration like this in my own mouth . For many many reasons . First of all , it is too damn heavy . Second , it is too damn hard . This without a doubt will kill the opposite dentition . Can you swear that the dentist will polish perfectly the zirconia after adjustments so it will not wear the opposite ? Also zero elasticity . From what I have learned so far , this is not implant's best friend . Please , share studies showing us the long term effect . Independent studies , not ZZ sponsored studies . Also 10 years doing Prettau ?? Wow , you must have worked with this material before it was even released to the public , because from what I know this kind of restorations are around for 6-7 years now . So not much diffrence with the PEEK stuff right ? You say no chipping of the teeth . Natural teeth are not indestructable . They crack , they chip , they break . Why should we put something indestructable in our mouth ? Also composites not looking good ? Really ?? I have seen far more porcelain not looking good than composite . Plus composite can be fixed really easily chairside , can you say the same about Prettau ? Also what about fatigue ? Doesn't this concerns you ? I have seen many many prettau or prettaue style bridges snap in half after 2-3 years in the mouth . Too many variables . My concern is the best for the patient , and my criteria for pushing a restoration like this , is if I would chose it if I was the patient , or my family . plain and simple . I this is not a restoration I would choose for me or my family . And I have more faith in a high quality lab that I know is doing things like they were supposed to be done , not cutting corners , than a company that wants to make the more money they can . So , let's agree we disagree on that subject . [/QUOTE]
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