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<blockquote data-quote="labdude" data-source="post: 2856" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>Geezers!!! Who you talkin' bout Cade??</p><p>Market them both Don. Let the market decide. It will let you know.</p><p></p><p>Me.... I seem to be trouble, now and again. I'm not really, just playful and not afraid to say anything about anything.</p><p>With that, I have in the recent and distant past, made the ball clasp variation, only with a straight wire without the 1/2 loop. Drs. have asked for best retention possible on a tough to retain case. Generally, next to nothing for interproximal, very shallow.</p><p>Those I clasps are great for retaining difficult to retain cases. That type clasp is what I would use if I felt that a crozat type might "bite" to much into the interproximal. Also I would use a duyzing (sp, I gave the book that has that clasp to rs promotions) and somtimes also solder the duyzing, which would then look like a crozat clasp, without the same structure.</p><p></p><p>As for buying pre-made anything. I think I have mentioned before, the only pre-made things I use are ball clasps, Herbst jumps etc. that can't be readily made in lab. True it might take nano seconds more time to make an adams clasp from straight wire, but, I do this because preformed parts like labial bows and adams clasps are made from a softer wire. And therefore are more prone to deforming with insertion and removal by the patient.</p><p></p><p>Again, don't kill the goodies you are working on, let the market decide. You have gone this far and spent this much, so...why stop?? </p><p>Stay kind the way you are now, to us smaller labs. We as you know won't be making to big a dent in the profits of GL or AOA etc. by producing things that look like, or are exactly like certain tm goodies. Makes us sort of seem like roaches, turn on the light and we scatter. We're you friend, you stay are friend. Anybody comes on this site trying to market your clasps or tm goodies will be firmly dealt with. However, if someone like Cade for instance, makes a ball clasp goody clasp form scratch, I'm o.k. with that. I will not be o.k. with somebody coming to this site and badmouthing Inman products because <strong><u>some </u></strong>they can be made in lab. </p><p>That type of thing happens Don, you bring it to my attention if you see it or feel it has happened, it will be dealt with. I know it can be a touchy area, I want to be fair to everyone.</p><p>Please don't be afraid to respond to me as you feel, that goes for everyone. Just keep it clean, unlike 95 years, he is on vacation from the site. Take a look at his posts if you like.</p><p>Mike.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="labdude, post: 2856, member: 63"] Geezers!!! Who you talkin' bout Cade?? Market them both Don. Let the market decide. It will let you know. Me.... I seem to be trouble, now and again. I'm not really, just playful and not afraid to say anything about anything. With that, I have in the recent and distant past, made the ball clasp variation, only with a straight wire without the 1/2 loop. Drs. have asked for best retention possible on a tough to retain case. Generally, next to nothing for interproximal, very shallow. Those I clasps are great for retaining difficult to retain cases. That type clasp is what I would use if I felt that a crozat type might "bite" to much into the interproximal. Also I would use a duyzing (sp, I gave the book that has that clasp to rs promotions) and somtimes also solder the duyzing, which would then look like a crozat clasp, without the same structure. As for buying pre-made anything. I think I have mentioned before, the only pre-made things I use are ball clasps, Herbst jumps etc. that can't be readily made in lab. True it might take nano seconds more time to make an adams clasp from straight wire, but, I do this because preformed parts like labial bows and adams clasps are made from a softer wire. And therefore are more prone to deforming with insertion and removal by the patient. Again, don't kill the goodies you are working on, let the market decide. You have gone this far and spent this much, so...why stop?? Stay kind the way you are now, to us smaller labs. We as you know won't be making to big a dent in the profits of GL or AOA etc. by producing things that look like, or are exactly like certain tm goodies. Makes us sort of seem like roaches, turn on the light and we scatter. We're you friend, you stay are friend. Anybody comes on this site trying to market your clasps or tm goodies will be firmly dealt with. However, if someone like Cade for instance, makes a ball clasp goody clasp form scratch, I'm o.k. with that. I will not be o.k. with somebody coming to this site and badmouthing Inman products because [B][U]some [/U][/B]they can be made in lab. That type of thing happens Don, you bring it to my attention if you see it or feel it has happened, it will be dealt with. I know it can be a touchy area, I want to be fair to everyone. Please don't be afraid to respond to me as you feel, that goes for everyone. Just keep it clean, unlike 95 years, he is on vacation from the site. Take a look at his posts if you like. Mike. [/QUOTE]
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