Thanks for the nice comments all. It's nice when they go in like this. Had one go in last week, 4 unit ant bridge, looked nice on the model (old guy, DDS said C4 but when I saw it in mouth it was really A4 but even a little darker w/ more orange) looked like crap in the mouth. Totally dead I was ready to take it back and start over, but Pt. and DDS were all looks great. Cement it. Hope I never see him at the grocery store I will hide. If I had pics I would post on HandPalm Thread.