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At CrossRoads to buy which brand of CAD/CAM
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<blockquote data-quote="charles007" data-source="post: 21302" data-attributes="member: 9"><p>Well Well, looks like I'm in for a fight,,,,,,,all Nay Sayers. hmmmm</p><p></p><p>Ok, I just put my politician hat on ....bring it on .......</p><p></p><p>ROUND ONE:</p><p></p><p>Give me a $ number to work with when its better to have inhouse milling....</p><p></p><p>If your paying $25-$45 per unit, if I have a scanner. (you pick the average outsource dollar amount) .....at what point in dollars per month is it worth while to have an inhouse mill........</p><p></p><p>Lets start with a low number of 100 units per month.......x $30 coping....= $3000. per month</p><p>Now I'm paying at a minimum of $3000. + aprox $600. or more for a scanner.. </p><p>So I'm paying out $3600 per month....... with less than 10 minutes labor per unit and waiting for the UPS driver to drop off coping so I can hopefully start stacking without any touch-ups.........</p><p></p><p>Let's now use 100 units again with 80 units at $30. and 20 units at $45. for full contour zir.......Now we have a outsource cost of $3300 + $600 scanner ....that equals a total cost of $3900......</p><p>I hope to actually make a lot more than 20 crowns in full contour per month.....</p><p>Bottom line, the higher unit numbers go up, the better the inhouse milling looks....</p><p></p><p>At 125 units per month @ $30 = $3750..... + $600 scanner......and I bet the scanner lease payment is higher !! that equals $4350. </p><p></p><p>125 units per month = $4350. Scanner @ $600. copings @ $30.</p><p>125 " " " = $2800. inhouse cad/cam,$1800. lease...disk $1000.</p><p></p><p>With a scanner only, no labor on the coping after scanning.</p><p>With a cam,,,,,,not sure of the exact time per unit, but I have seen aprox 3 minutes or less per coping, plus coloring...........From what I have learned?, the better the miller, the less time needed to finish........</p><p>IS 10 minutes per unit a more realistic labor time ?</p><p></p><p>Not sure what to say about milling wax, other than saying its faster than hand waxing, and the cases I helped designed had perfect margins,,,,,nothing to reseal............They were milled at .4.... not sure if its possible to mill at .3 which is what I try to wax at........</p><p></p><p>Ok , give it your best shot !!!!! for those of you that have been there, done that, what did I leave out, or get wrong..........</p><p></p><p>If I'm wrong, please show me the way down the path of not having buyers remorse..........</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="charles007, post: 21302, member: 9"] Well Well, looks like I'm in for a fight,,,,,,,all Nay Sayers. hmmmm Ok, I just put my politician hat on ....bring it on ....... ROUND ONE: Give me a $ number to work with when its better to have inhouse milling.... If your paying $25-$45 per unit, if I have a scanner. (you pick the average outsource dollar amount) .....at what point in dollars per month is it worth while to have an inhouse mill........ Lets start with a low number of 100 units per month.......x $30 coping....= $3000. per month Now I'm paying at a minimum of $3000. + aprox $600. or more for a scanner.. So I'm paying out $3600 per month....... with less than 10 minutes labor per unit and waiting for the UPS driver to drop off coping so I can hopefully start stacking without any touch-ups......... Let's now use 100 units again with 80 units at $30. and 20 units at $45. for full contour zir.......Now we have a outsource cost of $3300 + $600 scanner ....that equals a total cost of $3900...... I hope to actually make a lot more than 20 crowns in full contour per month..... Bottom line, the higher unit numbers go up, the better the inhouse milling looks.... At 125 units per month @ $30 = $3750..... + $600 scanner......and I bet the scanner lease payment is higher !! that equals $4350. 125 units per month = $4350. Scanner @ $600. copings @ $30. 125 " " " = $2800. inhouse cad/cam,$1800. lease...disk $1000. With a scanner only, no labor on the coping after scanning. With a cam,,,,,,not sure of the exact time per unit, but I have seen aprox 3 minutes or less per coping, plus coloring...........From what I have learned?, the better the miller, the less time needed to finish........ IS 10 minutes per unit a more realistic labor time ? Not sure what to say about milling wax, other than saying its faster than hand waxing, and the cases I helped designed had perfect margins,,,,,nothing to reseal............They were milled at .4.... not sure if its possible to mill at .3 which is what I try to wax at........ Ok , give it your best shot !!!!! for those of you that have been there, done that, what did I leave out, or get wrong.......... If I'm wrong, please show me the way down the path of not having buyers remorse.......... [/QUOTE]
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