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Outsourcing Concerns- FDA Regulations-ADA Regulati
A fight with a lab owner sending his work to china.
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<blockquote data-quote="BillyB" data-source="post: 18445" data-attributes="member: 1659"><p>Rob, The socialist/commie nations of Europe and Asia have socialized the costs of their infrastructures like higher education and technical schools, transportation, as well as health care costs, etc etc. This is essentially subsidizing their domestic corporations that open up factories there because of the well educated workforce and the cost of health coverage is lower. (Like Honda decided to cancel a production line in LA. only to set it up in Canada because of these very things.) Not to mention that most of these large manufacturers (like the dental manufacturers of Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein) have R&D development costs underwritten by their governments. Since they are mostly joint ventures, the economic power of the government enables this up-front cost to be absorbed in order to create long term profit for the joint venture. It keeps the jobs in-country. The wages to cost of living ratios are higher there than here because of this. If you have travelled, notice that in Germany -by and large - they drive German cars (foreign cars have tariffs to offset the domestic tax & revenue losses if one decides to buy foreign, and American car has a 40% tariff in Germany),in Italy they drive Italian cars (for the same reasons as germany),in England they drive English cars (for the same reason),in Asia they drive Asian cars (same reason). But, when you look around at America ... well no tariffs means Americans are buying subsidized foreign cars (and many of the foreign manufacturers who set up factories in the US are given US tax subsidies to set up shop here) - the most subsidized car by the US taxpayers? Mercedes Benz and KIA. Not to mention that they are joint ventures with their own government.</p><p></p><p>There is a trade war going on, Rob. The european and Asian governments are backing up their (dental) manufacturing base to take the US manufacturers down. Sadly, even US states subsidize these very same foreign companies.</p><p></p><p>Our country is being gutted right before our very eyes. When it comes to trade policy, I'm a protectionist. Because I believe that America is worth protecting! And there is a trade war being waged against us, and America as a whole is doing nothing but accommodating it.</p><p></p><p>We need to wrest control of our trade policy out of the hands of multinational corporations and put US labor and manufacturing back in control of American democracy. That is what made America great, and it is what we have lost.</p><p></p><p>Also, your comment that letting a Densply salesman into my lab "should speak volumes about your (my) character right there" is puerile and uncalled for. Should I turn away the UPS and FEDEX delivery drivers also? Go down to their trucks and look at the percentage of "<img src="/forums/images/smilies/test/mad.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="Mad" title="Mad Mad" data-shortname="Mad" />e in China' boxes they are delivering. What? 95% 99%. They are the prime players in the "new economy". They even advertise this as a major part of their business models every night on US TV. They are the facilitators of Chinese outsourcing - and they will work a deal with any and all interested parties, plus they'll manage the US customs details. Does allowing these trade prostitutes into your lab "speak volumes about your character right there"? Of course not. Specious argument, at best.</p><p></p><p>You're right, Rob. It is a "hot" topic, and I've got a big mouth too.</p><p></p><p>Looking forward to more conversation on this.</p><p></p><p><img src="/forums/images/smilies/test/cheers.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="Cheers" title="Cheers Cheers" data-shortname="Cheers" />,</p><p>Billy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BillyB, post: 18445, member: 1659"] Rob, The socialist/commie nations of Europe and Asia have socialized the costs of their infrastructures like higher education and technical schools, transportation, as well as health care costs, etc etc. This is essentially subsidizing their domestic corporations that open up factories there because of the well educated workforce and the cost of health coverage is lower. (Like Honda decided to cancel a production line in LA. only to set it up in Canada because of these very things.) Not to mention that most of these large manufacturers (like the dental manufacturers of Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein) have R&D development costs underwritten by their governments. Since they are mostly joint ventures, the economic power of the government enables this up-front cost to be absorbed in order to create long term profit for the joint venture. It keeps the jobs in-country. The wages to cost of living ratios are higher there than here because of this. If you have travelled, notice that in Germany -by and large - they drive German cars (foreign cars have tariffs to offset the domestic tax & revenue losses if one decides to buy foreign, and American car has a 40% tariff in Germany),in Italy they drive Italian cars (for the same reasons as germany),in England they drive English cars (for the same reason),in Asia they drive Asian cars (same reason). But, when you look around at America ... well no tariffs means Americans are buying subsidized foreign cars (and many of the foreign manufacturers who set up factories in the US are given US tax subsidies to set up shop here) - the most subsidized car by the US taxpayers? Mercedes Benz and KIA. Not to mention that they are joint ventures with their own government. There is a trade war going on, Rob. The european and Asian governments are backing up their (dental) manufacturing base to take the US manufacturers down. Sadly, even US states subsidize these very same foreign companies. Our country is being gutted right before our very eyes. When it comes to trade policy, I'm a protectionist. Because I believe that America is worth protecting! And there is a trade war being waged against us, and America as a whole is doing nothing but accommodating it. We need to wrest control of our trade policy out of the hands of multinational corporations and put US labor and manufacturing back in control of American democracy. That is what made America great, and it is what we have lost. Also, your comment that letting a Densply salesman into my lab "should speak volumes about your (my) character right there" is puerile and uncalled for. Should I turn away the UPS and FEDEX delivery drivers also? Go down to their trucks and look at the percentage of "Made in China' boxes they are delivering. What? 95% 99%. They are the prime players in the "new economy". They even advertise this as a major part of their business models every night on US TV. They are the facilitators of Chinese outsourcing - and they will work a deal with any and all interested parties, plus they'll manage the US customs details. Does allowing these trade prostitutes into your lab "speak volumes about your character right there"? Of course not. Specious argument, at best. You're right, Rob. It is a "hot" topic, and I've got a big mouth too. Looking forward to more conversation on this. Cheers, Billy [/QUOTE]
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