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<blockquote data-quote="paulg100" data-source="post: 19699" data-attributes="member: 1643"><p>phew, thats a tall order there.</p><p></p><p>As a small lab (whats small in the US?) i think you may struggle to find something that mills Zirconia AND Glass with good accuracy, for a price that you can get a reasonable ROI on.</p><p></p><p>"i hate to outsource anything, cause i hate to delay my clients in case anything goes wrong with the milling center"</p><p>Yeah it is nice to have that extra control, but it sure does come at a price.</p><p></p><p>Has any looked or got prices on the Origin systems?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.origincadcam.com/" target="_blank">ORIGIN CAD/CAM</a></p><p></p><p>This looks promising and seems to be one of the few systems that does both dry and wet milling which i think is whats needed. I dont think its ideal to wet mill zirconia. Also seem to have a number of different models to suit cost/output requirements. No lithium disilicate yet though.</p><p></p><p>*** ?</p><p></p><p>The Kavo Everest system has been around a long while now but does zirconia and glass and metal. We looked at this before buying our Cercon mill several years ago. Its always had a pretty good rep. What turned us off was they way you have to manually fill the internal of copings with a resin before milling the external. The upshot of this though is you can mill very accurate knife edge margins with less chipping problems. They have now opened this up to 3shape so it has a bang up to date software/scanner solution to go with it now.</p><p>In hind sight we should have gone with this rather than cercon i think. </p><p></p><p>Also have you checked dental products report?</p><p><a href="http://dlpmagazine.com/cadcam" target="_blank">DentalProductsReport.com - CAD/CAM Connection</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://dental.advanstar.com/charts/ccc/dlp0709_tt-Charts-Complete-Closed.pdf" target="_blank">http://dental.advanstar.com/charts/ccc/dlp0709_tt-Charts-Complete-Closed.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>They have some nice comparison charts on there that summarise most of the current systems, their cost and there facilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="paulg100, post: 19699, member: 1643"] phew, thats a tall order there. As a small lab (whats small in the US?) i think you may struggle to find something that mills Zirconia AND Glass with good accuracy, for a price that you can get a reasonable ROI on. "i hate to outsource anything, cause i hate to delay my clients in case anything goes wrong with the milling center" Yeah it is nice to have that extra control, but it sure does come at a price. Has any looked or got prices on the Origin systems? [url=http://www.origincadcam.com/]ORIGIN CAD/CAM[/url] This looks promising and seems to be one of the few systems that does both dry and wet milling which i think is whats needed. I dont think its ideal to wet mill zirconia. Also seem to have a number of different models to suit cost/output requirements. No lithium disilicate yet though. *** ? The Kavo Everest system has been around a long while now but does zirconia and glass and metal. We looked at this before buying our Cercon mill several years ago. Its always had a pretty good rep. What turned us off was they way you have to manually fill the internal of copings with a resin before milling the external. The upshot of this though is you can mill very accurate knife edge margins with less chipping problems. They have now opened this up to 3shape so it has a bang up to date software/scanner solution to go with it now. In hind sight we should have gone with this rather than cercon i think. Also have you checked dental products report? [url=http://dlpmagazine.com/cadcam]DentalProductsReport.com - CAD/CAM Connection[/url] [url]http://dental.advanstar.com/charts/ccc/dlp0709_tt-Charts-Complete-Closed.pdf[/url] They have some nice comparison charts on there that summarise most of the current systems, their cost and there facilities. [/QUOTE]
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