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SlowWater, You are good ceramist I think you've made your point now, You don't need to go far, Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and ideas. I think both of you right !!! So please if you don't like any comment simply ignore it and enjoy with the rest

I kind like that conversations :fencing: But please keep it friendly and open minded :shakehands: Love you all guys :cheers:

Hi Drizzt, Nice layering μπράβο !

Al, Looks the same color with the right side of mouth but the dentist need to clean& polish the rest and will be blend it.

Very nice paulg100 looks Natural !!

Yes Refractory its more Accurate and More Aesthetic just the time consuming,But I think I am going to charge more than pressed veneer. For the foil one its looks easy but i couldn't stand it i don't know whey lol. Pressed tech. good but not for limited prep. or non prep. even if I reduced...

First of all I wish every one a Successful year, Its nice to be back to dln. Now Which One You Prefer For Veneer and whey ?? What Do You Think Its more Important Time, Money, Accurate, Aesthetic 1-pressable 2- foil 3- refractory Thx,

Yeah thats whey any new material & machine comes up to the market i wait for some feedback from dentist and lab.

TheLabGuy , Its nice to see you back to comment on DLN i didn’t see your name for long time !! In fact I Found DLN through your comment , I was looking on Google regarding ivoclare shade guide compatibility with 3D master shade formula. And I found the only real place to learn and study is...

I agree very nice case !! SlowWater beautiful work, For long time i didn't see any case like that in here, Love the line angle !!

double post sorry !!

Mokome , " put more tiny bumpy surface texture and less polish " You are very correct !! I think you knows very well lol

Hi Slowwater , Very nice. But looks too shiny, If you use mechanical polishing ( mat polish ) will blend with the rest of teeth.

charles007 Yamamoto ...................$500. :attention:

Al, very nice But ur photo in lab better than in mouth unless ur dentist he took that !

Hi grabo, First of all you need to choose the right shade and more clear photo with no shadow or as you said patient come to ur lab will be easy to do that and then decide which tech.

Could be charles007 , Because paulg100 said he fired two crown at the same time so either one of them was too dry OR what Bumfrey said ( the placement in your furnace. Even at equal distances from the edge of the crown stand, differing areas of the muffle can make a difference) But that very...

Paulg100 like other said, But i agree with charles007( try keeping your porcelain a little more moist as your doing the second buildup add-on and give a tap once off your model ) Not too moist, When i did course with Oliver Brix he mention about not to dry it a lot that cause micro...

Thats really funny how did you fined out, Man you can sue them or call them to pay you some money ( compensation) :cool:

If you want just to stain it with dark red color than you may try creation ZI-F porcelain stain OR zirox porcelain stain from Wieland