Wax Try-Ins

[InfinityDentalLab]

Hi,
I have been waxing up try-ins for our doctors and have gotten the complaint that the wax and/or teeth fall off or break apart when they try it in the patients mouth.
I have tried using just wax, and custom tray material with retention holes and wax on top of that.
Its happening for full acrylic partial wax ups, framework wax ups, and full acrylic denture wax ups.
Any advice on how to make the wax try-ins "stronger" so this does not happen?
I make sure to take them off the model before sending them out so they aren't breaking during that step either. I have even tried adding a little super glue to keep them together with no luck.
Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks!

 

[evanosu]

This is a very common issue. Sometimes it's a result of being in the patient's mouth too long or the type of setup/baseplate wax; we usually like using an all season wax, what type of wax are you using?

 

[InfinityDentalLab]

This is a very common issue. Sometimes it's a result of being in the patient's mouth too long or the type of setup/baseplate wax; we usually like using an all season wax, what type of wax are you using?

We are currently using Kulzer Modern Materials. Specifically Modern Pink #3 wax!

 

[Rtyrelw]

I use aesthetic med wax from candular, I order it from Edmonds Dental supply. I've had really good success with that

 

[Doris A]

We are currently using Kulzer Modern Materials. Specifically Modern Pink #3 wax!

It's the wax that you're using. It's only meant for waxing, not for setting the teeth.
Use Modern Materials Shur-Wax X Hard for setting teeth and #3 for the remainder of the wax up.

 

[FASTFNGR]

Hi,
I have been waxing up try-ins for our doctors and have gotten the complaint that the wax and/or teeth fall off or break apart when they try it in the patients mouth.
I have tried using just wax, and custom tray material with retention holes and wax on top of that.
Its happening for full acrylic partial wax ups, framework wax ups, and full acrylic denture wax ups.
Any advice on how to make the wax try-ins "stronger" so this does not happen?
I make sure to take them off the model before sending them out so they aren't breaking during that step either. I have even tried adding a little super glue to keep them together with no luck.
Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks!

This is normal and not at the same time. Normal because it is A WAX TRY IN and not because the first word the dentist or assistant needs to say before any thing is: GENTLY BITE DOWN this is wax and no longer than 2 minutes in the mouth atherwise it softenes and sh…t happens.

 

[Rtyrelw]

This is normal and not at the same time. Normal because it is A WAX TRY IN and not because the first word the dentist or assistant needs to say before any thing is: GENTLY BITE DOWN this is wax and no longer than 2 minutes in the mouth atherwise it softenes and sh…t happens.

I disagree with that. 2 minutes in the mouth is not enough time to properly check function and aesthetics. You can look at it in 2 minutes no problem but it should be in the mouth for longer than 2 minutes I would say about 10 to 15 max but no less than five so whatever wax you use should be able to withstand that. Again I use candler and I have never had a consistent issue with that. One or two here or there but never much

 

[JKraver]

I disagree with that. 2 minutes in the mouth is not enough time to properly check function and aesthetics. You can look at it in 2 minutes no problem but it should be in the mouth for longer than 2 minutes I would say about 10 to 15 max but no less than five so whatever wax you use should be able to withstand that. Again I use candler and I have never had a consistent issue with that. One or two here or there but never much

You could remove it from the mouth and cool it in water it doesn't need to be a consecutive 10-15 min.

 

[Doris A]

You could remove it from the mouth and cool it in water it doesn't need to be a consecutive 10-15 min.

Plus the wax they're using is too soft.

 

[Rtyrelw]

You could remove it from the mouth and cool it in water it doesn't need to be a consecutive 10-15 min.

agreed

 

[TheLabGuy]

It's the wax that you're using. It's only meant for waxing, not for setting the teeth.
Use Modern Materials Shur-Wax X Hard for setting teeth and #3 for the remainder of the wax up.

This is spot on!!!

 

[rkm rdt]

We only try in free end partials and full dentures now.
Tooth borne partials with frames go straight to finish from the IOS scans.

 

[Denture Dude]

Anytime I’ve got a case with single anteriors I will send the case back with the partial in a small cotton lined box with a note ‘fragile, tooth in wax, be gentle.’

 

[Denture Dude]

We only try in free end partials and full dentures now.
Tooth borne partials with frames go straight to finish from the IOS scans.

Your offices must be very proficient shade takers with non discerning patients

 

[Denture Dude]

It's the wax that you're using. It's only meant for waxing, not for setting the teeth.
Use Modern Materials Shur-Wax X Hard for setting teeth and #3 for the remainder of the wax up.

I didn’t realize this was a universal truth. I actually prefer to use the softer wax to set teeth and harder wax to festoon.

 

[mightymouse]

It's the wax that you're using. It's only meant for waxing, not for setting the teeth.
Use Modern Materials Shur-Wax X Hard for setting teeth and #3 for the remainder of the wax up.

Kulzer rep told me a good trick to know if your wax is strong enough for set ups. Take a sheet and slap it on the edge of your bench. If it cracks and breaks no good for set up. Didn’t believe it at first so tried it with the wax we were using and it it cracked. Tried Shur-Wax X Hard and not even a line on it. Haven’t looked back since.

 

[rkm rdt]

Your offices must be very proficient shade takers with non discerning patients

 

[Flipperlady]

No matter what you do if the dentist is soaking your wax try in in hot water then having them bite down because verticle is off then they push the teeth back in place or make major adjustments. OR they let the pt take the wax try in home to see how they like it all bets are off