Sirona Ineos X5

[Drizzt]

Hey everyone ,

Anybody has any feedback about the new Sirona scanner ?

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[Accutech]

I'm sure it'll cost another $15-20k in upgrade + trade up fee from my current blue scanner. Not to mention dongle fees and service contracts. I know the scanner will scan in 5 axis mode but what is the point when inlab compact and MCXL cannot utilize benefits of 5 axis milling??? Open stl output. . That's $2.5k more right there if they continue with their current business model. Maybe 4 years ago this would have been a viable competitor to other scanners on the market but as of current I'll stick with acquiring a medit scanner with exocad.

 

[Drizzt]

I friend asked me about it . I am suspicious too . I didn't even bother to spend any time at Sirona's IDS booth , that's why I don't know anything about it . They are advertising open STL though . Who knows , maybe they decided to go with the rest of the companies . The 5 axis though is for the scanning proces I believe , nothing to do with 5 axis milling .

 

[ceram1]

Not a lot of info yet, supposed to be 12 micron accuracy and scan a full arch in 15 seconds, time will tell.

 

[Tooth Geek]

Inlab 4.0 definitely exports stl, no dongle now needed. When our 3Shape is bogged downed with a chunk of scanning we now use the ineos blue to scan an import files into dental system at the same time. Fits of FCZR from these files seem fine...go figure...

 

[ceram1]

We have done this as well with lava 7 but it is scan files only. They charge for restoration and connect file open export.

 

[paulg100]

"supposed to be 12 micron accuracy"

ill believe that when i see it! Sirona are the masters of BS and smoke screens.

No way id touch any of their gear again.

 

[Drizzt]

"supposed to be 12 micron accuracy"

ill believe that when i see it! Sirona are the masters of BS and smoke screens.

No way id touch any of their gear again.

I was sure I would get a reply from you Paul !

P.S. Thanks for the book info , I ordered his first book , after that i will have his new one !

 

[zero_zero]

Could somebody point out where the 5 axis are, I could only see 3...

 

[paulg100]

its probably "a virtual 5th axis" like the mill

more sirona marketing bs?

 

[Drizzt]

Maybe an imaginary friend whose name is 5th axis ?

 

[zero_zero]

Is marketing BS in my opinion as well. 5 axis would only make sense for a single laser pointer type of scanning like the old Cercon did in 2.5, not a projected grid...

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[ceram1]

Takes a pretty bright light to cut through the sirona smoke but I believe the advantage would be more angles = less data holes = better scan. Hope they have done it but tend to doubt them as well.

 

[eyeloveteeth]

for a small sized lab this will be more than fine. There's a new mill coming out too.

 

[patmo141]

Concept vs Marketing Pop quiz time...

how many axes is the inEOS Blue?

Answer might suprise you,
Patrick

 

[patmo141]

Could somebody point out where the 5 axis are, I could only see 3...

1. x position
2. y position
3. z position
4. rotation about x axis
5. rotation about y axis

(4 and 5 could be xy, xz or yz, i just chose to label them x and y... More generally, rotation about 2 out of 3 axes).

 

[zero_zero]

In this case more likely rotation about x axis, rotation about y axis and rotation about z axis. Unless there is something hidden in the top part...

 

[patmo141]

In this case more likely rotation about x axis, rotation about y axis and rotation about z axis. Unless there is something hidden in the top part...

dang good catch. I didn't see that other pivot point tucked back in there.

 

[zero_zero]

Definitely would look cool simultaneously moving as it scans... 3rd axis is either there for the cool factor ( as a selling point ) or to tuck the scan table away for manual modes, since 2 axis movement is plenty enough for the camera to see every detail.

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[politeman]

I'm sorry for resurrecting old topic, but some time passed, maybe there are new opinions about InEos X5? Is it a good competitor to 3Shape D900?