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Lab talk, the good, the bad, and the ugly
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Nobel Procera optical scanner owners/users
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<blockquote data-quote="JohnWilson" data-source="post: 28719" data-attributes="member: 213"><p>OK here is my take on things:</p><p></p><p>In a perfect world where alloy prices were consistent and my competition was forced to operate in a fair and effective manner by playing by all the rules I would not have any issue providing a product to my clients a Precious free restoration. Here lies the problem your clients no matter how much you sugar coat it are only going to be compensated for a base metal crown. Casting an finishing base metal generally means you are working with an alloy that contains Ni and Be. There are others out there that work but everyone I have worked with in my career had a trade off. I choose not t put my health and the health of my staff at risk by using this type of alloy.</p><p></p><p>Now as it relates to milled NP which Nobel calls "Chrome" this material is about as clean a base metal as I have ever seen. How bio compatible it is in the mouth I have no idea. If it has Ni or Be I don't know. I am testing it and it works fine with my Vita Porc. Its just another product that I am working with right now and testing to see how it reacts in my lab and seeing how much it will actually cost me to produce this unit effectively. I will then see what the market will pay for such a product and then and only then will I know if I can make money on it. My thought is NO, but the milled Ti may be different, it all depends if ADA will provide a code to the INSCO for a porc fused to TI restoration. Right now its a gray area on how offices are coding it which I do not like.</p><p></p><p>Rick as for this scanner or 3shapes system you have to ask yourself who you plan to partner with to mill your designs, then nail down your costs for these restorations. I have locked my prices in with Nobel before I purchased the new scanner.</p><p></p><p>Let me know if you have any other questions,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnWilson, post: 28719, member: 213"] OK here is my take on things: In a perfect world where alloy prices were consistent and my competition was forced to operate in a fair and effective manner by playing by all the rules I would not have any issue providing a product to my clients a Precious free restoration. Here lies the problem your clients no matter how much you sugar coat it are only going to be compensated for a base metal crown. Casting an finishing base metal generally means you are working with an alloy that contains Ni and Be. There are others out there that work but everyone I have worked with in my career had a trade off. I choose not t put my health and the health of my staff at risk by using this type of alloy. Now as it relates to milled NP which Nobel calls "Chrome" this material is about as clean a base metal as I have ever seen. How bio compatible it is in the mouth I have no idea. If it has Ni or Be I don't know. I am testing it and it works fine with my Vita Porc. Its just another product that I am working with right now and testing to see how it reacts in my lab and seeing how much it will actually cost me to produce this unit effectively. I will then see what the market will pay for such a product and then and only then will I know if I can make money on it. My thought is NO, but the milled Ti may be different, it all depends if ADA will provide a code to the INSCO for a porc fused to TI restoration. Right now its a gray area on how offices are coding it which I do not like. Rick as for this scanner or 3shapes system you have to ask yourself who you plan to partner with to mill your designs, then nail down your costs for these restorations. I have locked my prices in with Nobel before I purchased the new scanner. Let me know if you have any other questions, [/QUOTE]
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