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New Yenadent D15 milling machine
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<blockquote data-quote="CoolHandLuke" data-source="post: 244668" data-attributes="member: 4850"><p>whoever was telling you that was probably talking a lot of crap.</p><p></p><p>D15Sif it was the 'same' as D43 would be completely useless.</p><p></p><p>but lets break down the use of 12 tools vs 24 for a moment.</p><p></p><p>you need 4 tools in most cam systems. a big roughing tool, a finer roughing tool, a fine milling tool and a high detail ultrafine milling tool. some CAM breaks it down as 3, 2, 1, 0.6mm and some cam breaks it down to 2, 1, 0.6, 0.3mm</p><p></p><p>however your cam does it, 12 tool pockets means you have a diamond set for zr, a plated set for ti, a diamond grinding set for emax, and any single replacement tool for highly used tools, like 4 x 1mm in their own pockets to be used in case of immediate breakage.</p><p></p><p>with 24, you can store two sets of each so that you don't need downtime. in the dental world, this is pretty overkill. there arent many people pushing the boundaries of manufacturing of cocr and medical titanium enough to merit this kind of tool pocketing. if you are the kind of person to create your own toolpaths and templates and tool strategies, you would need this many tool pockets because you would be constantly re-inventing the process. you would also be needing the extra travel limits of the 43. and if you were engineering your own machining templates you probably wouldn't have bought a 'dental' mill to begin with.</p><p></p><p>but as i've said, i am highly skeptical that the 15s and the 43 are in any way similar. it is my estimation that the 15s is merely the 15 shipped with the 'optional' table and wet milling package that you ordinarily would pay extra for when you buy the 15.</p><p></p><p>it may also be, that the 15s is shipped with the same spindle as the 43, but it would have the smaller travel limits of the 15.</p><p></p><p>making it predictably, pretty useless.</p><p></p><p>it has been mentioned before in this very thread that Yenadent arent fantastic with their support, and it wouldn't surprise me to see they just copy-pasted from the 43 hoping you couldn't tell the difference and the difference wouldnt matter.</p><p></p><p>their website certainly seems to show this to be true. a lot of copy pasting going on, very little discernible data apart from photos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CoolHandLuke, post: 244668, member: 4850"] whoever was telling you that was probably talking a lot of crap. D15Sif it was the 'same' as D43 would be completely useless. but lets break down the use of 12 tools vs 24 for a moment. you need 4 tools in most cam systems. a big roughing tool, a finer roughing tool, a fine milling tool and a high detail ultrafine milling tool. some CAM breaks it down as 3, 2, 1, 0.6mm and some cam breaks it down to 2, 1, 0.6, 0.3mm however your cam does it, 12 tool pockets means you have a diamond set for zr, a plated set for ti, a diamond grinding set for emax, and any single replacement tool for highly used tools, like 4 x 1mm in their own pockets to be used in case of immediate breakage. with 24, you can store two sets of each so that you don't need downtime. in the dental world, this is pretty overkill. there arent many people pushing the boundaries of manufacturing of cocr and medical titanium enough to merit this kind of tool pocketing. if you are the kind of person to create your own toolpaths and templates and tool strategies, you would need this many tool pockets because you would be constantly re-inventing the process. you would also be needing the extra travel limits of the 43. and if you were engineering your own machining templates you probably wouldn't have bought a 'dental' mill to begin with. but as i've said, i am highly skeptical that the 15s and the 43 are in any way similar. it is my estimation that the 15s is merely the 15 shipped with the 'optional' table and wet milling package that you ordinarily would pay extra for when you buy the 15. it may also be, that the 15s is shipped with the same spindle as the 43, but it would have the smaller travel limits of the 15. making it predictably, pretty useless. it has been mentioned before in this very thread that Yenadent arent fantastic with their support, and it wouldn't surprise me to see they just copy-pasted from the 43 hoping you couldn't tell the difference and the difference wouldnt matter. their website certainly seems to show this to be true. a lot of copy pasting going on, very little discernible data apart from photos. [/QUOTE]
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