Diagnostic Wax Up

[newcomer]

Hi all,
I recently saw full mouth Diagnostic Wax Up for an actual patient. It was beautiful and life-like with incredible details . I could even see crack lines on a couple of teeth and some of the molars had slight wear facets. Essentially, it looked as if a mold was made from a set of real teeth then melted wax was poured or injected into the mold and somehow superimposed on the patient's cast. Has anyone seen a technique like this. If it's possible, I would love to be able to do that.

 

[rkm rdt]

Take a card or your favourite denture teeth and make a silicone mould. Fill the mould with white wax and voila.

 

[newcomer]

Take a card or your favourite denture teeth and make a silicone mould. Fill the mould with white wax and voila.

Wow! rkm rdt, Thank you soooo much. So that's how it works! I'm going to give it a try. Do you know if there is an article or VDO tutorial on this. I'm trying to figure out how it is done exactly. (Like how do you position the silicone mold so it lines up with the tooth. (Or do I make a bunch of Occlusal 1/3 to have them handy, then select and secure these with wax one by one then build the cervical 2/3 to complete the tooth. By the way, any recommended denture teeth in particular?
Thank you so much again for you help

 

[RileyS]

My bet is whoever did the DWax is just very talented

 

[Contraluz]

it looked as if a mold was made

line has molds just for that purpose. Although I agree with rkm rdt, pick a denture tablet and duplicate it.

And this... :

My bet is whoever did the DWax is just very talented

 

[kcdt]

I wax tons of diagnostics and surgical guides. I've taken to going through the pans for nightguards. I look for intact arches with no missing teeth, crowns, or fillings. I make a lab putty matrix occlusal to just past cej. Look for varying morphology forms as well as sizes. I currently have enough to wax 6-7 complete arches with matching opposition in sizes small to really big with 3 shape variations in the mid range sizes.
I used to use denture teeth, but unless it's an anatomically correct mould, I find them too narrow buccal lingual.

 

[rkm rdt]

Wow! rkm rdt, Thank you soooo much. So that's how it works! I'm going to give it a try. Do you know if there is an article or VDO tutorial on this. I'm trying to figure out how it is done exactly. (Like how do you position the silicone mold so it lines up with the tooth. (Or do I make a bunch of Occlusal 1/3 to have them handy, then select and secure these with wax one by one then build the cervical 2/3 to complete the tooth. By the way, any recommended denture teeth in particular?
Thank you so much again for you help

just box the card with wax or plastecine and pour the silicone into the mould.
You can fill in as much wax as you need for either a veneer or full crown (pontic).

 

[newcomer]

just box the card with wax or plastecine and pour the silicone into the mould.
You can fill in as much wax as you need for either a veneer or full crown (pontic).[/QUO

just box the card with wax or plastecine and pour the silicone into the mould.
You can fill in as much wax as you need for either a veneer or full crown (pontic).

Awesome!!! Thank you so much again!! I'll try it out

 

[newcomer]

My bet is whoever did the DWax is just very talented

Thanks RileyS. It could very well be. (I'm just hoping that there may be a method that requires less time and doesn't need that kind of talent. The latter, I would love to but definitely don't have.

 

[newcomer]

line has molds just for that purpose. Although I agree with rkm rdt, pick a denture tablet and duplicate it.

And this... :

Thanks Contraluz for another great tip

 

[newcomer]

I wax tons of diagnostics and surgical guides. I've taken to going through the pans for nightguards. I look for intact arches with no missing teeth, crowns, or fillings. I make a lab putty matrix occlusal to just past cej. Look for varying morphology forms as well as sizes. I currently have enough to wax 6-7 complete arches with matching opposition in sizes small to really big with 3 shape variations in the mid range sizes.
I used to use denture teeth, but unless it's an anatomically correct mould, I find them too narrow buccal lingual.

Thanks, Kcdt! It appears to me that there is a high possibility that this case was done by your method! (Judging from the life-like anatomy and alignment and wear facets and crack lines on only certain teeth.)
Would you mind sharing how you apply this to the model of the patient's arch? Is it something like filling a selected matrix (from the ones you made of different arch sizes and forms) with wax, then remove the full-arch wax from the matrix and affix it to the patient's model of which the patient's teeth have been cut off? I'm trying to imagine myself doing this and running into the difficulty of positioning it accurately Occ-Cerv , B-Li , Antr-Poster. Really looking forward to learning how you do it!

 

[newcomer]

just box the card with wax or plastecine and pour the silicone into the mould.
You can fill in as much wax as you need for either a veneer or full crown (pontic).

Awesome! I'll give that a try. It will give me beautiful and economical "tops", "faces" and full tooth for many of my cases to come
Thank you so much again!

 

[Contraluz]

Thanks Contraluz for another great tip

You are welcome. I don't use them, but here is a link. It is more cost effective to DIY...

https://smilelineusa.com/wax-forms/architect

 

[user name]

OP needs to see the sculptures done by one of our members, but I cant recall the guys name. He posted some unbelievable full arch art, and I think its the same guy that did a hand sculpture.

Anyone recall?

 

[user name]

Found it.
http://dentallabnetwork.com/forums/threads/full-progressive-waxing-two-arches.22116/

@newcomer, prepare to have your mind blown

 

[Sda36]

Found it.
http://dentallabnetwork.com/forums/threads/full-progressive-waxing-two-arches.22116/

@newcomer, prepare to have your mind blown

I second User's comment, Michel Angelo of Dental Ceramics[emoji4]

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