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Dr sent these to me last week for eval. patient want #10 "fixed". my first thought was....extract #16 (since #1 is gone) and head to ortho. Doc said patient absolutely refuses ortho. sooooooo now what? how aggressive should i be? i mean, there's no way to prep that and stand it up. there's no proximal room even if you could. and there's very little occlusal room between 10 and 22.
let's spitball a few ideas...
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Implant or a three unit bridge...that lateral needs to go if the pt. doesn't like orhto...Stupido2
 
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Extract the 22. Than do the prep on model and than make good mockup of canine to canine.

Thats the ideal case of smile design. Increase lil proclination of 11 so you create room between anteriors.

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Extract the 22. Than do the prep on model and than make good mockup of canine to canine.

Thats the ideal case of smile design. Increase lil proclination of 11 so you create room between anteriors.

All done.


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i didnt want to scare the patient with an uber aggressive plan of 6-11...but i was heading in that direction. my biggest hesitation is prepping what might be otherwise healthy teeth.
extract 10 as well and bridge? or just attempt a prep and single crowns?
 
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Only extract left lateral. Than tell your doctor to do intentional Root canal in required teeth.

Go for Seperate crowns. Only one extraction required!!

I ll post same kind of case today.


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That upper right canine is, sticking out like dog's balls too. Not too sure if you can prep that back into alignment judging from the last pic.
 
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That upper right canine is, sticking out like dog's balls too. Not too sure if you can prep that back into alignment judging from the last pic.
there is no easy solution i dont think...without ortho.
#6 and #7 are both sticking out as well as #10 and #11 almost is a peg canine. very odd and cramped arch.
 
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there is no easy solution i dont think...without ortho.
#6 and #7 are both sticking out as well as #10 and #11 almost is a peg canine. very odd and cramped arch.

If the pt desires an 'ideal' smile, anything besides ortho will be very invasive. Hopefully, you can make the pt/doc understand that. I can imagine, once the pt realizes that, he/she will rethink it. Good luck!
 
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pull the 3rd molar and do ortho. The Dr will never tell the pt thats the cheaper route.
 
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Pt wants a quick fix.

Build out the 2 centrals. make 2 pmma splinted veneers for them. Let the patient wear them to see if they like the change.
If not,then suggest something more invasive.
 
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pull the 3rd molar and do ortho. The Dr will never tell the pt thats the cheaper route.
actually the Dr said that was the best option and referred the pt to an ortho office. patient decided against it, just wants a fast and easy fix.
 
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actually the Dr said that was the best option and referred the pt to an ortho office. patient decided against it, just wants a fast and easy fix.
Shag the front 6 and make a flipper.:rolleyes:
Fast and easy on someone.
 
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actually the Dr said that was the best option and referred the pt to an ortho office. patient decided against it, just wants a fast and easy fix.
told ya.
They don't like the way the laterals stick out.
They don't want to move any teeth.
They have a party to go to next weekend.
They ain't coming back

make the veneers
 
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Classic Class II Div II anterior malocclusion. Optimal esthetic way to treat with minimal prep is with laminates 5-12. Little to no buccal prep on 8.9, but some incisal reduction and distal reduction through the contact. #10 will need to be fairly aggressive but usually they can be prepped while staying in enamel. The loss of arch form is the inclination of 8,9 as much as it is the facial inclination of 7,10 so you have to correct all to have an esthetic outcome.
 
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Dr sent these to me last week for eval. patient want #10 "fixed". my first thought was....extract #16 (since #1 is gone) and head to ortho. Doc said patient absolutely refuses ortho. sooooooo now what? how aggressive should i be? i mean, there's no way to prep that and stand it up. there's no proximal room even if you could. and there's very little occlusal room between 10 and 22.
let's spitball a few ideas...
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If the patient wants to look like their teeth have always been normal, you have no option if ortho is refused. Aside from a year's pay of whole mouth plan.

Since they want fast, my initial thought would be a MD bridge. You'll have plenty of tooth to bond against with the space being so small that you can't fit it between 9/11 properly, it will be still looking different, but could possibly get it fairly similar to 7 with overrotation and incisal tilt.

A MDI type solution with a single tooth cemented on could be a candidate as well if they have the bone for it. The implant path would be different from the root path, allowing a very firm grasp by the threads. Yeah, it stinks, but I have a 5unit bridge out there on 4 of them and it's still going 7 years later. Only option that patient could afford.

If it were my case, I'd dupe the model 2-3-4 times and try various permutations. Deliver with a note outlining steps required for each variant and let the pt and doc choose. I'm also highly averse to clinical decision making. I'll offer options, and even suggest the one I like, but I always make them make the call, on paper.
 
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