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<blockquote data-quote="Sevan P" data-source="post: 125289" data-attributes="member: 7766"><p>The 450i is a great machine, I had the pleasure to works with a 4axis 340i and that machine was a beast! Can only image what a 450i can do. I have seen them in action and they are amazing. Argen here in the San Diego, CA charges $16.00 usd for a SLM non-precious shipped i think. Obviously the more units you do in an order the more effective it becomes on cost. LS machines are very expensive, high maintenance and generally a pain. I would leave them to the people that have already dove into that market. Yes Cutting CrCo doesn't make as much cost effective since, might as well cut in wax then cast in non-precious (base metal). But milling CrCo saves the investing time, burn out time and so on, so it can be faster but now your tieng up the mill when you could have it milling other things like abutments and crowns.</p><p></p><p>Maybe others that cut CrCo with the 450i can chime in. What Cam software imes V4, V5 or sumd3D? Getting the right strategy to cut the CrCo fast and effective would make it more worth it, Hopefully they are able to get cut in or under 15min per unit.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What Material and what size disk 98mm or 100mm? Wax I can pack from 28-35 units in a 98mm puck. A mix of molars, bicuspids and so on. CrCo maybe, but the Imes runs a 3mm or 2,5mm roughing bur which means the offset is either 3 or 3.5 leading to a lot of CrCo waste, but being a 1:1 ratio, you could fit a good amount of units in a disk, depends on your nesting method really.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sevan P, post: 125289, member: 7766"] The 450i is a great machine, I had the pleasure to works with a 4axis 340i and that machine was a beast! Can only image what a 450i can do. I have seen them in action and they are amazing. Argen here in the San Diego, CA charges $16.00 usd for a SLM non-precious shipped i think. Obviously the more units you do in an order the more effective it becomes on cost. LS machines are very expensive, high maintenance and generally a pain. I would leave them to the people that have already dove into that market. Yes Cutting CrCo doesn't make as much cost effective since, might as well cut in wax then cast in non-precious (base metal). But milling CrCo saves the investing time, burn out time and so on, so it can be faster but now your tieng up the mill when you could have it milling other things like abutments and crowns. Maybe others that cut CrCo with the 450i can chime in. What Cam software imes V4, V5 or sumd3D? Getting the right strategy to cut the CrCo fast and effective would make it more worth it, Hopefully they are able to get cut in or under 15min per unit. What Material and what size disk 98mm or 100mm? Wax I can pack from 28-35 units in a 98mm puck. A mix of molars, bicuspids and so on. CrCo maybe, but the Imes runs a 3mm or 2,5mm roughing bur which means the offset is either 3 or 3.5 leading to a lot of CrCo waste, but being a 1:1 ratio, you could fit a good amount of units in a disk, depends on your nesting method really. [/QUOTE]
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