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<blockquote data-quote="Smilestyler" data-source="post: 116252" data-attributes="member: 6203"><p>I have not tried this in yet. I think my midline is close to my mark (at least from my rims). Sometimes I will deliberately move slightly it if my mark is off of the incisive papilla. </p><p>I usually let the lingual cusps sit right in the bottom of the fossae, I think there is supposed to be a bit more space between the buccal cusps for the lingualized set up, but to me it doesn't quite look right and I haven't had any issues with cheek biting. Until I do, I will keep the spacing to about 1mm. </p><p>The Candulator works well. I like the ergonomics of it. It is a smaller semi adjustable. It is a better articulator than the Stratos 100, comparable to the 200, but the Stratos 300 is hands down the best (of what I have anyhow) I like the leg on top so it doesn't over open. I like the shape of the corner supports so it doesn't require the kickstand like the Stratos. The condyle adjustments and not as ideal, with small knobs and only the condylar angle is adjustable, but once they are set I don't look at them again until the next case. The condyle locks are not as smooth but I am getting used to them. I really like the standard magnetic mounting plates, someday i might get all my Stratos converted. $$$$ There is no facebow, but I bought an adapter kit that allows me to use my transferbow (Ivoclar facebow) and it allows Kavo and a few others also. I think the limited condylar adjustments and lack of facebow are because the Swiss concept that these are made for don't call for those clinical measurements.</p><p>I find that the recommended lowers are petty close, at least no different than any other tooth company. This case is a bit retrognathic and that always screws up the overjet and thereby the ideal lower ants. I will see how they look in the mouth. The posteriors may not appear to be in their ideal medial distal position, but these are designed to be tooth to tooth as opposed to the normal tooth to 2 teeth. It's a bit weird at first I admit. I'm not sure why they went this way. They use quite a bit of Gerber's theories which are less conventional.</p><p>I can get some eccentric photos after they are past the tryin stage. I don't want to disappoint you with what you see now <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Smilestyler, post: 116252, member: 6203"] I have not tried this in yet. I think my midline is close to my mark (at least from my rims). Sometimes I will deliberately move slightly it if my mark is off of the incisive papilla. I usually let the lingual cusps sit right in the bottom of the fossae, I think there is supposed to be a bit more space between the buccal cusps for the lingualized set up, but to me it doesn't quite look right and I haven't had any issues with cheek biting. Until I do, I will keep the spacing to about 1mm. The Candulator works well. I like the ergonomics of it. It is a smaller semi adjustable. It is a better articulator than the Stratos 100, comparable to the 200, but the Stratos 300 is hands down the best (of what I have anyhow) I like the leg on top so it doesn't over open. I like the shape of the corner supports so it doesn't require the kickstand like the Stratos. The condyle adjustments and not as ideal, with small knobs and only the condylar angle is adjustable, but once they are set I don't look at them again until the next case. The condyle locks are not as smooth but I am getting used to them. I really like the standard magnetic mounting plates, someday i might get all my Stratos converted. $$$$ There is no facebow, but I bought an adapter kit that allows me to use my transferbow (Ivoclar facebow) and it allows Kavo and a few others also. I think the limited condylar adjustments and lack of facebow are because the Swiss concept that these are made for don't call for those clinical measurements. I find that the recommended lowers are petty close, at least no different than any other tooth company. This case is a bit retrognathic and that always screws up the overjet and thereby the ideal lower ants. I will see how they look in the mouth. The posteriors may not appear to be in their ideal medial distal position, but these are designed to be tooth to tooth as opposed to the normal tooth to 2 teeth. It's a bit weird at first I admit. I'm not sure why they went this way. They use quite a bit of Gerber's theories which are less conventional. I can get some eccentric photos after they are past the tryin stage. I don't want to disappoint you with what you see now ;) [/QUOTE]
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