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<blockquote data-quote="charles007" data-source="post: 315825" data-attributes="member: 9"><p>What's the most practical way to do your own lab work in 2020 when you have free time on your hands and only doing 10 cases per month. Forget about practical and decide the $ amount you want to spend while thinking about the future of new technology in the digital age !</p><p></p><p>If I were in your shoes coming from a tech who bought my first scanner around 2011. I see 2 choices and both cost about the same which is buying IOS or lab scanner.</p><p>Another cost going forward are yearly software update cost of scanners. IOS scanner updates cost varies from free I think to yearly fees/update support.</p><p>Lab scanners such as 3Shape owners must pay every year or scanner doesn't work. Scanner with Exocad software have a choice of paying for new Updates with support or continue using scanner without updates and losing all software support !</p><p>IOS scanner or Lab scanner ?</p><p></p><p>1. IOS scanner... and consider the Medit IOS.</p><p>Using IOS, impression free, send files to Argen for multiple materials or other labs, go model free crowns or have models printed to do you own layered porcelain work or monolithic stain and glaze. Argen also offers milled alloys, gold, cast, printed and SLM, zirconia, LD, </p><p></p><p>2. Lab scanner...(Do your research before buying and test drive) 2 choices, scanners with Exocad software or 3Shape. Scan your poured models or your impressions, send to Argen/other labs and wait 3 days for frames to stack porcelain or monolithic stain/glaze.</p><p>As you probably know most labs are using monolithic zirconia for most posteriors and many anteriors. MiYO liquid ceramic is very popular for staining anteriors and Jensen sells this material. Micro layering porcelain is another technique labs are using. Fully layered ceramics is not the norm now in the digital age.</p><p>Beyond the IOS or lab scanner, you still need a porcelain oven, sandblaster, etc. aprox 9 to 15k depending on how elaborate your lab setup.</p><p>Once you have your little one man lab up and running and run into trouble needing help from your friendly lab owner, who do you call ? Last doctor that stopped sending me his bread and butter cases and only sent difficult cases and anteriors, my prices automatically went up, and no more rush cases..</p><p>Last word of advice, keep a relationship with a lab you trust, even if only sending work on a small level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="charles007, post: 315825, member: 9"] What's the most practical way to do your own lab work in 2020 when you have free time on your hands and only doing 10 cases per month. Forget about practical and decide the $ amount you want to spend while thinking about the future of new technology in the digital age ! If I were in your shoes coming from a tech who bought my first scanner around 2011. I see 2 choices and both cost about the same which is buying IOS or lab scanner. Another cost going forward are yearly software update cost of scanners. IOS scanner updates cost varies from free I think to yearly fees/update support. Lab scanners such as 3Shape owners must pay every year or scanner doesn't work. Scanner with Exocad software have a choice of paying for new Updates with support or continue using scanner without updates and losing all software support ! IOS scanner or Lab scanner ? 1. IOS scanner... and consider the Medit IOS. Using IOS, impression free, send files to Argen for multiple materials or other labs, go model free crowns or have models printed to do you own layered porcelain work or monolithic stain and glaze. Argen also offers milled alloys, gold, cast, printed and SLM, zirconia, LD, 2. Lab scanner...(Do your research before buying and test drive) 2 choices, scanners with Exocad software or 3Shape. Scan your poured models or your impressions, send to Argen/other labs and wait 3 days for frames to stack porcelain or monolithic stain/glaze. As you probably know most labs are using monolithic zirconia for most posteriors and many anteriors. MiYO liquid ceramic is very popular for staining anteriors and Jensen sells this material. Micro layering porcelain is another technique labs are using. Fully layered ceramics is not the norm now in the digital age. Beyond the IOS or lab scanner, you still need a porcelain oven, sandblaster, etc. aprox 9 to 15k depending on how elaborate your lab setup. Once you have your little one man lab up and running and run into trouble needing help from your friendly lab owner, who do you call ? Last doctor that stopped sending me his bread and butter cases and only sent difficult cases and anteriors, my prices automatically went up, and no more rush cases.. Last word of advice, keep a relationship with a lab you trust, even if only sending work on a small level. [/QUOTE]
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