Procera Zirconia Shades

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I currently have the Procera laser scanner. I don't really like the shades of the zirconia they offer, they look a little green to me.

Is anyone else having a problem with this?

What are you doing to overcome it?

I've done a lot of Lava zirconia in the past and I never had an issue with their shades.
 
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Nobel's Zr has been fine for us. We use their Zr as back up when there's a hick up in our milling system. For the most part, you just want to get in the ballpark for value with your Zr frames assuming you have adequate reduction. Remember to slow cool all your Zr 15 min on glaze cycle only to destress veneering ceramic.
 
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I understand that, but why does Nobel only have 3 shades and Lava and several others have 7 or 8?

And Nobel's 3 shades look nothing like the Lava shades.
 
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You can see the green in the procera zirconia at the bottom


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We have done a lot of shaded Procera Zi but not as much since EMAX , we just finished a 12 unit cases Procera Zi case in the "light" shade it did not look anything like this.

Are you scanning this, or outsourcing it?
 
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I'm scanning it, I have the Procera laser scanner. I do outsource the Lava zirconia though.
 
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Someone's Sintering oven has bad element, or contaminates.

We get that color or worse once a year or so when an oven goes poop.

Ruins everything near that bad element. Sometimes the whole contents of oven turns Green. Can happen to any Zirconia.
 
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Someone's Sintering oven has bad element, or contaminates.

We get that color or worse once a year or so when an oven goes poop.

Ruins everything near that bad element. Sometimes the whole contents of oven turns Green. Can happen to any Zirconia.


Both of these frameworks are fresh out of the boxes that they were shipped to me in. I haven't done anything to them at all.
 
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then you might want to shout at the nobel people and mail them this photo. thats just not right.
 
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Both of these frameworks are fresh out of the boxes that they were shipped to me in. I haven't done anything to them at all.

I said, Sintering oven. NOT a porcelain oven.

Did you do the sintering? It's not a single persons fault, it just happens.

It happens to all Zirconia if sintered in an oven with bad elements or ?? crappy gasses.
 
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The greenish color has been consistent on all of the Procera Zi I have ordered since I bought this scanner 2 months ago.
 
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Send your scans to me and we will hold the Green sauce for your orders.

Contact Brad or Marc to send your encrypted Nobel files for Bruxzir, Lava, Amann Girrbach, or other Zirconia, or even wax printing. 804-285-0777

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i have thought of a new name for your zirconia, actittle...

how about Wasabi-conia


or the more probable name, Zucconia (zuccini-zirconia)

no ?
 
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