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<blockquote data-quote="PearlZ" data-source="post: 192114" data-attributes="member: 12965"><p>let me start by snipping up this into some dissectable sentences because theres comparisons in here that arent fair to make.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>you can't say that and compare our industry to Big Pharma for several reasons. 1. your products don't really differ from my products in any unique way. everyone who makes FCZ tends to call them FCZ even in casual conversation. if we were drug companies we'd have unique special brews for drugs because we'd all be trying to make knockoff Viagra under our own names. this leads me to point 2. big pharma employs copyright protection and trademark for both its name, logo, and actual branded product. theres only 2 companies i know of that try to do that with any dental product; ivoclar insists you call it e.Max, because it is their patented product. moreover Empress still employs the same protections. 3. there really are a lot of brands of product that form the basis of similarity between all our products. eventually it comes down to selling the name of the products you buy. eg if i buy Cercon pucks it eventually becomes easier to say you sell Cercon FCZ. that's how Bruxzir got its push; Jim decided to push a material he rebranded from a zirconia supplier from god knows where. its the same as me and you, pushing our own branded versions of product actually made under a different name. people do it all the time - buy a scanner and send cases to Nobel and sell Nobel as off-brand. in some states its not legal to do that, and in Canada at least theres the requisite for the coloured stickers. 4. in big pharma there are lobbies devoted to concealing and misdirecting ingredients to the public. i refer you to this [MEDIA=youtube]WA0wKeokWUU[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>again, it would be nice indeed however for labs that send to nobel, or send to glidewell, its not gonna happen. it would be unethical. they didnt do any of the work. theres so much outsourcing going on because people don't want to invest in a huge way into the equipment necessary for processing most current lab products. even certain doctors who buy Cerec - they don't say they make some name brand, they sell Cerec crowns - a lot of them eventually can't justify its use either due to heavy patient traffic or because the unit simply can't handle the case load. everyone knows its not as simple as 'buy a unit, make big money' theres labour involved and that means theres a measure whereby the operator can fail and produce garbage. often with cerec that means 'it will have to do' because they don't factor remakes into their costs and their time invested can't be higher than a certain number of hours before patients get angry or the cost (in terms of time) is too high.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>true enough but you have to realize the public can be really cutthroat. they will pick at your ad, your spelling, even your choice of font. its ridiculous to think about spendinig 100k in airtime on an ad that might be skipped by a dvr, or a billboard that might get vandalized. spend that money on your lab instead and grow it. a nice wine-and-dine week with all your clients, a company retreat, whatever. </p><p></p><p>bottom line here is that we cannot in any way be compared to big pharma. our products simply do not reflect the same standardization, or government.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PearlZ, post: 192114, member: 12965"] let me start by snipping up this into some dissectable sentences because theres comparisons in here that arent fair to make. you can't say that and compare our industry to Big Pharma for several reasons. 1. your products don't really differ from my products in any unique way. everyone who makes FCZ tends to call them FCZ even in casual conversation. if we were drug companies we'd have unique special brews for drugs because we'd all be trying to make knockoff Viagra under our own names. this leads me to point 2. big pharma employs copyright protection and trademark for both its name, logo, and actual branded product. theres only 2 companies i know of that try to do that with any dental product; ivoclar insists you call it e.Max, because it is their patented product. moreover Empress still employs the same protections. 3. there really are a lot of brands of product that form the basis of similarity between all our products. eventually it comes down to selling the name of the products you buy. eg if i buy Cercon pucks it eventually becomes easier to say you sell Cercon FCZ. that's how Bruxzir got its push; Jim decided to push a material he rebranded from a zirconia supplier from god knows where. its the same as me and you, pushing our own branded versions of product actually made under a different name. people do it all the time - buy a scanner and send cases to Nobel and sell Nobel as off-brand. in some states its not legal to do that, and in Canada at least theres the requisite for the coloured stickers. 4. in big pharma there are lobbies devoted to concealing and misdirecting ingredients to the public. i refer you to this [MEDIA=youtube]WA0wKeokWUU[/MEDIA] again, it would be nice indeed however for labs that send to nobel, or send to glidewell, its not gonna happen. it would be unethical. they didnt do any of the work. theres so much outsourcing going on because people don't want to invest in a huge way into the equipment necessary for processing most current lab products. even certain doctors who buy Cerec - they don't say they make some name brand, they sell Cerec crowns - a lot of them eventually can't justify its use either due to heavy patient traffic or because the unit simply can't handle the case load. everyone knows its not as simple as 'buy a unit, make big money' theres labour involved and that means theres a measure whereby the operator can fail and produce garbage. often with cerec that means 'it will have to do' because they don't factor remakes into their costs and their time invested can't be higher than a certain number of hours before patients get angry or the cost (in terms of time) is too high. true enough but you have to realize the public can be really cutthroat. they will pick at your ad, your spelling, even your choice of font. its ridiculous to think about spendinig 100k in airtime on an ad that might be skipped by a dvr, or a billboard that might get vandalized. spend that money on your lab instead and grow it. a nice wine-and-dine week with all your clients, a company retreat, whatever. bottom line here is that we cannot in any way be compared to big pharma. our products simply do not reflect the same standardization, or government. [/QUOTE]
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