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<blockquote data-quote="user name" data-source="post: 40340" data-attributes="member: 1719"><p>"Alot of people complain about using HO ingots. You can opaque a metal frame and do real nice PFMs...a HO ingot is leaps ahead of that. I like to use an old Finesse porcelain opaque guide to help dial in the color before I layer."</p><p></p><p>When was the lst time you made a minimal prep metal veneer? If you completely block ALL light with metal or the HO's virtually do, then you need sufficient porcelain space to impart vitality again (OK you can try to fake it with a complex grey mix but even that has its limits),so if the space is minimal then how do you do this? </p><p></p><p>Nothing in the photos suggest 'minimal' on the prep. These look like very adequete reductions, and if they are veneers then theres only the cingulum left.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="user name, post: 40340, member: 1719"] "Alot of people complain about using HO ingots. You can opaque a metal frame and do real nice PFMs...a HO ingot is leaps ahead of that. I like to use an old Finesse porcelain opaque guide to help dial in the color before I layer." When was the lst time you made a minimal prep metal veneer? If you completely block ALL light with metal or the HO's virtually do, then you need sufficient porcelain space to impart vitality again (OK you can try to fake it with a complex grey mix but even that has its limits),so if the space is minimal then how do you do this? Nothing in the photos suggest 'minimal' on the prep. These look like very adequete reductions, and if they are veneers then theres only the cingulum left. [/QUOTE]
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